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From: Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net>
To: Dmitry Potapov <dpotapov@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Gavrilov <angavrilov@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 1/8] git-gui: Cleanup handling of the default encoding.
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:29:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D281E6.1070204@viscovery.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080918150238.GC21650@dpotapov.dyndns.org>

Dmitry Potapov schrieb:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 01:07:32AM +0400, Alexander Gavrilov wrote:
>> The rationale for this is Windows support:
>>
>> 1) Windows people are accustomed to using legacy encodings
>>    for text files. For many of them defaulting to utf-8
>>    will be counter-intuitive.
>> 2) Windows doesn't support utf-8 locales, and switching
>>    the system encoding is a real pain. Thus the option.
> 
> I don't care much what is the default for Windows, but I wonder whether
> this rationale is good enough to change the default for other platforms.

"The default" should not be hardcoded in the tool.

By setting the encoding to "system", "the default" is taken from whatever
the system's current locale is. If you are on modern Linux, your locale is
most likely set to UTF8, and everything is fine; you won't observe a
change in behavior.

But if you are on a system whose locale was not set to UTF8, then you very
likely did *not* produce UTF8 data, and the display in git-gui was screwed
because it assumed UTF8. With this change it uses the system's encoding,
and it is an improvement.

> If you have systems configured with utf-8 and others (usually old ones)
> with legacy encoding, you will store files in utf-8 in your repo, thus
> having utf-8 as the default makes sense for non-Windows platforms.

How can you know? For example, I've to work with systems that use "legacy
encodings", and I can't use UTF8 in my data. Hence, the default of UTF8
was not exactly useful. With this patch series there's now a mechanism
that allows me to state the encoding per file, and all platforms should be
able to show the data in the correct way.

-- Hannes

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-18 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-17 21:07 [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 0/8] Encoding support in GUI Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-17 21:07 ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 1/8] git-gui: Cleanup handling of the default encoding Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-17 21:07   ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 2/8] git-gui: Add a menu of available encodings Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-17 21:07     ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 3/8] git-gui: Allow forcing display encoding for diffs using a submenu Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-17 21:07       ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 4/8] git-gui: Optimize encoding name resolution using a lookup table Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-17 21:07         ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 5/8] git-gui: Support the encoding menu in gui blame Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-17 21:07           ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 6/8] gitk: Port new encoding logic from git-gui Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-17 21:07             ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 7/8] gitk: Implement file contents encoding support Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-17 21:07               ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 8/8] gitk: Support filenames in the locale encoding Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-19 12:10             ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 6/8] gitk: Port new encoding logic from git-gui Johannes Sixt
2008-09-19 12:38               ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-19 13:04                 ` Johannes Sixt
2008-09-21 18:52                   ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-22  7:25                     ` Johannes Sixt
2008-09-22  7:46                       ` Johannes Sixt
2008-09-22  8:01                       ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-22  8:20                         ` Johannes Sixt
2008-09-22  9:02                           ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-22  9:18                             ` Johannes Sixt
2008-09-22 10:18                               ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-22  9:01                     ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-09-18 15:02   ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 1/8] git-gui: Cleanup handling of the default encoding Dmitry Potapov
2008-09-18 15:14     ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-18 16:29     ` Johannes Sixt [this message]
2008-09-18 16:50       ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-09-18 17:00         ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-18 17:19           ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-09-17 21:45 ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 0/8] Encoding support in GUI Paul Mackerras
2008-09-18 11:12   ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-09-21 22:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-09-22 10:12   ` Alexander Gavrilov
2008-10-05  2:30     ` [PATCH 1/2] check-attr: add an internal check_attr() function Dmitry Potapov
2008-10-05  2:30       ` [PATCH 2/2] check-attr: Add --stdin-paths option Dmitry Potapov
2008-10-06  7:09         ` Johannes Sixt
2008-10-07  0:14           ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] check-attr: add an internal check_attr() function Dmitry Potapov
2008-10-07  0:16           ` [PATCH 2/2 v2] check-attr: Add --stdin-paths option Dmitry Potapov
2008-10-08 15:24             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-12 14:19               ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-10-12 15:04                 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-12 16:35                   ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-10-10 22:39             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-12 14:30               ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-10-01 11:35   ` [PATCH (GIT-GUI,GITK) 0/8] Encoding support in GUI Johannes Sixt
2008-10-10 10:46     ` Paul Mackerras

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