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From: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
To: Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>
Cc: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: libgit2 - a true git library
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:44:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <490CA37C.1070107@op5.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081101173042.GE26229@artemis.corp>

Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:41:54PM +0000, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
>> How about this?
>>
>> http://www.spearce.org/projects/scm/libgit2/apidocs/CONVENTIONS
> 
> FWIW I've read what you say about types, while this is good design to
> make things abstract, accessors are slower _and_ disallow many
> optimizations as it's a function call and that it may clobber all your
> pointers values.
> 

Accessors are very nifty for one thing though; With a debugging flag,
you can use an accessor-function, while without that debugging flag you
can use a macro instead of a function. In other words, you use the
compiler as a sort of sanity-checker that you're only accessing the
variables through the proper macros.

This method introduces a bit of extra code (50% of which is always
dead) for each struct it's used on, but it makes debugging large-ish
pieces of software relatively simple, since access to all object types
is controlled through the use of macros.

> For types that _will_ be in the tight loops, we must make the types
> explicit or it'll bite us hard performance-wise. I'm thinking what is
> "struct object" or "struct commit" in git.git. It's likely that we will
> loose a *lot* of those types are opaque.
> 

The last sentence doesn't parse. I assume you mean "if those types are..",
in which case it'll be solved by using accessor-macros and forward-declaring
the structs.

> struct object in git has not changed since 2006.06. struct commit hasn't
> since 2005.04 if you ignore { unsigned int indegree; void *util; } that
> if I'm correct are annotations, and is a problem we (I think) have to
> address differently anyways (I gave my proposal on this, I'm eager to
> hear about what other think on the subject). So if in git.git that _is_
> a moving target we have had a 2 year old implementation for those types,
> it's that they're pretty well like this.
> 
> It's IMNSHO on the matter that core structures of git _will_ have to be
> made explicit. I'm thinking objects and their "subtypes" (commits,
> trees, blobs). Maybe a couple of things on the same vein.
> 

I agree. "git_commit", "git_tree", "git_blob" and "git_tag" can almost
certainly be set in stone straight away.

-- 
Andreas Ericsson                   andreas.ericsson@op5.se
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-01 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-31 17:07 libgit2 - a true git library Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-31 17:28 ` Pieter de Bie
2008-10-31 17:29   ` Pieter de Bie
2008-10-31 17:47 ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 18:41   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-31 18:54     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 19:57       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-31 20:12         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 20:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-10-31 21:58       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01 17:30     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01 18:44       ` Andreas Ericsson [this message]
2008-11-01 18:48         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01 20:29         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01 21:58           ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-11-02  1:50             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-03 10:17               ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-11-02  1:56       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-02  9:25         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 20:24   ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-31 20:29     ` david
2008-10-31 20:56       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-31 21:43         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-31 21:50           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-31 21:51           ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 21:31     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 22:10       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-01 10:52         ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-31 23:24       ` Pieter de Bie
2008-10-31 23:28         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-31 23:49           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-01  0:02             ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01  0:19               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01  1:02                 ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01  0:13             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01  1:15               ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-01  1:19                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01  1:45                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-01  1:52                     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01  2:26                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-11-01 11:01                         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01 13:50                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-01 17:01                             ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01 20:26                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-31 23:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-10-31 23:33       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 23:41       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-31 23:56         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-01  0:41         ` david
2008-11-01  1:00           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01  1:04             ` david
2008-11-01  1:08               ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01  1:33                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-01  1:38                   ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01  1:49                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-01  1:43                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01  1:53                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-01 22:57                       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-02  0:26                         ` Scott Chacon
2008-11-02  1:07                           ` Scott Chacon
2008-11-02  1:36                             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-02  5:09                             ` David Brown
2008-11-03 16:20                               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01  1:06           ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01  1:36             ` david
2008-10-31 20:24   ` Brian Gernhardt
2008-10-31 21:59   ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-31 22:01     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-31 22:51       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-01 11:17       ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-31 23:22     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-31 23:18 ` Bruno Santos
2008-10-31 23:25   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-01 19:18 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-11-01 20:42   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-11-02  2:30     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-11-02  9:19     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-03 13:08     ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-11-08 13:26 ` Steve Frécinaux
2008-11-08 14:35   ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-11-08 17:27     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-09 10:17       ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-11-09 21:02         ` Shawn O. Pearce

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