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From: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com>, git list <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: EasyGit Integration
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:52:00 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2F1FD0.8060303@vilain.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vws7khlvj.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> I think as long as there is a deprecation cycle, and that users can
>> select the old behaviour (either via an alias or a config option), then
>> we shouldn't upset many long-time users of revert. Do you agree?
>>     
>
> I actually don't.
>
> I do not think introducing "git revert-file" (or "git revert -- path") is
> a problem at all.  But "git revert $commit" has been and is an integral
> part of the established git workflow, and I do not see a point in changing
> it to mean something else, with any deprecation period.
>   

Ok. Off-hand I can't remember why we excluded "git revert -- path" as
workable. Whatever that reason was led to the group of core developers
coming up with these "clearly" "_inferior_" names.

That could solve the problem, switching behaviour on the type of
argument passed rather than including it in the command name. I think
that was my preferred option at the time, too. Perhaps some other
attendees can recall more clearly...

> Some changes in "eg" may port well as a new command to git-core, and some
> change (like this "revert" thing that has different semantics and breaks
> established workflow) will never be in git-core.  People may think that it
> would not cause many problems if we picked only the non-conflicting bits,
> but I actually have some reservations about that.
>
> It will bloat the total number of subcommands you can give git, with the
> end result being
>
>  (1) old timers won't use "revert-commit" and "revert-file" at all but use
>      "revert" and "checkout -- path"; while
>
>  (2) new people will behave the other way; and
>
>  (3) the documentation will list all of commands from these two disjoint
>     sets under "git".
>
> When a "eg" minded person teaches git, the students may have to be told to
> ignore "revert" and "checkout -- path", because there are other ways to do
> the same thing in the lingo they are being taught, which is a subset of
> git commands.  The manual pages will be littered with descriptions like
> "this command, when used this way, is synonymous to using that other
> command with this option", leaving the reader wondering why there are so
> many ways to do the same thing.
>   

Yes, I agree that if the old behaviour is not being deprecated it
probably shouldn't be replicated as well.

In fact that may have been the argument for excluding 'git revert
filename' - because you can already do that with 'git checkout HEAD --
filename'; but perhaps in this case it is acceptable, because the
'checkout' command can also check out from other revisions, but revert
can't.

Sam.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-10  2:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-09 18:59 EasyGit Integration Scott Chacon
2009-06-09 19:43 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-06-09 19:52 ` Avery Pennarun
2009-06-09 20:37   ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-06-09 20:42     ` Avery Pennarun
2009-06-10 12:13       ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-06-09 20:49     ` Elijah Newren
2009-06-10  1:09   ` Miles Bader
2009-06-09 20:12 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-06-09 20:40   ` Elijah Newren
2009-06-09 21:18     ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-06-09 21:27 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-06-09 21:36   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-09 21:48   ` Elijah Newren
2009-06-09 22:00 ` Elijah Newren
2009-06-10 12:52   ` Matthieu Moy
2009-06-09 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 22:30   ` Elijah Newren
2009-06-09 22:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10  0:40       ` Mark Lodato
2009-06-10  3:11       ` Miles Bader
2009-06-10  3:32       ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-10  4:03         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10 22:31           ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-10 23:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10 23:57               ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-11  0:15                 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-11  0:30                   ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-11  0:42                     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-12 20:57                       ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-12 21:21                         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-12 21:48                           ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-12 22:05                             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-12 22:30                               ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-13  1:24                                 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-06-11  0:18               ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-10  4:20         ` Elijah Newren
2009-06-10 14:40       ` Matthieu Moy
2009-06-10  1:25   ` Sam Vilain
2009-06-10  1:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10  2:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-10  2:52       ` Sam Vilain [this message]
2009-06-10  6:43         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-10  3:27       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-06-10 20:47         ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-10 22:28           ` Elijah Newren
2009-06-10 16:48       ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-10 22:15       ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-10 22:04 ` Felipe Contreras

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