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From: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
To: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
Cc: Ondrej Certik <ondrej@certik.cz>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: default aliases (ci, di, st, co)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:50:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A55AF45.4040700@drmicha.warpmail.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A55958E.1050401@op5.se>

Andreas Ericsson venit, vidit, dixit 09.07.2009 09:00:
> Ondrej Certik wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> coming to git from mercurial and svn, here is the alias part of my .gitconfig:
>>
>> [alias]
>>     ci = commit
>>     di = diff --color-words
>>     st = status
>>     co = checkout
>>
>>
>> And all is fine until I share commands to checkout my branch (for
>> example) with other people, then basically I have to write those
>> commands in full (e.g. commit, checkout, ...), since I cannot assume
>> they have their .gitconfig setup the same way I do. Especially for
>> people who are new to git.
>>
>> What is the view on this in the git community?
> 
> 
> Personally I think "plain" aliases like you use above are evil.
> git is not svn or mercurial. If you use it like svn you'll be
> surprised sooner or later and your workflow will feel awkward or
> just plain wrong. hg and git are very similar, but the fact that
> hg assumed the svn shorthands implies to me that they've tried
> to retain a compatibility that does not, in fact, exist. DVCS
> systems are enormously different from centralized ones. Borrowing
> from centralized ones to a DVCS one feels utterly backwards.
> 
> 
>> Do most of you write
>>
>> git checkout -b branch ...
>>
>> (possibly with TAB completion) or do most of you write
>>
>> git co -b branch ...
>>
>> (like I do all the time, except when sharing my commands with other people)?
>>
> 
> I have no simple aliases for any of the commands. There's just no reason
> for them since tab completion works so well.
> 
> I do have one alias, which is "wsfix". It fixes whitespace fsckups I've
> added to the index but not yet committed to the worktree. It's not a
> particularly complex one, but not exactly simple either.
> 
> 
>> Could in principle those aliases be even made default by git? Or is
>> this not a good idea.
>>
> 
> I see no reason to add default aliases. It will make a mess of things
> when trying to explain workflows to people who have older versions of
> git where those default aliases aren't available. It'll add complexity
> to explanations, which is never a good thing.
> 
> If I have a vote, I vote no.
> 

Adding my no-vote to that, too.

Aliases are great, but default aliases are a problem. We saw this when
we introduced "git stage", and I don't think we're happy in retrorespect.

Having said that, collecting useful aliases (e.g. one, who, ...) in
contrib/ or in the wiki would be helpful.

Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-09  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-08 23:49 default aliases (ci, di, st, co) Ondrej Certik
2009-07-09  0:13 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-07-09  8:58   ` Graeme Geldenhuys
2009-07-09 16:43   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-07-09 23:08     ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-13  6:40       ` Jeff King
2009-07-13  6:43         ` Jeff King
2009-07-13  9:15         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09  7:00 ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-07-09  8:50   ` Michael J Gruber [this message]
2009-07-09  9:04     ` Graeme Geldenhuys
2009-07-09  9:40     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-07-09  9:48       ` Michael J Gruber
2009-07-09  8:58   ` Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha
2009-07-12  5:07     ` Ondrej Certik
     [not found]   ` <20090709160249.GA12830@cthulhu>
2009-07-09 20:54     ` wsfix alias Andreas Ericsson
2009-07-09 21:30       ` Larry D'Anna
2009-07-09  9:01 ` default aliases (ci, di, st, co) Graeme Geldenhuys
2009-07-09  9:12   ` Matthieu Moy

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