* Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
@ 2009-07-30 5:48 Mark A Rada
2009-07-30 7:44 ` J.H.
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From: Mark A Rada @ 2009-07-30 5:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git
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Hi,
I thought I would submit this little patch I made to my gitweb. I am
on a relatively slow
connection, and so LZMA compression time is less of a concern than
bandwidth---I'm
guessing that I am not the only person who suffers from slow internet
connection
syndrome.
--
Mark A Rada (ferrous26)
marada@uwaterloo.ca
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From a080ce5e8467317a3f20c6de8814549e5c4f46f2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Mark Rada <marada@uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:27:32 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
Signed-off-by: Mark Rada <marada@uwaterloo.ca>
---
gitweb/gitweb.perl | 8 ++++++++
1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/gitweb/gitweb.perl b/gitweb/gitweb.perl
index 38492d0..e131ea4 100755
--- a/gitweb/gitweb.perl
+++ b/gitweb/gitweb.perl
@@ -184,6 +184,13 @@ our %known_snapshot_formats = (
'format' => 'tar',
'compressor' => ['bzip2']},
+ 'txz' => {
+ 'display' => 'tar.lzma',
+ 'type' => 'application/x-lzma',
+ 'suffix' => '.lzma',
+ 'format' => 'tar',
+ 'compressor' => ['lzma']},
+
'zip' => {
'display' => 'zip',
'type' => 'application/x-zip',
@@ -196,6 +203,7 @@ our %known_snapshot_formats = (
our %known_snapshot_format_aliases = (
'gzip' => 'tgz',
'bzip2' => 'tbz2',
+ 'lzma' => 'txz',
# backward compatibility: legacy gitweb config support
'x-gzip' => undef, 'gz' => undef,
--
1.6.4
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-07-30 5:48 Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots Mark A Rada
@ 2009-07-30 7:44 ` J.H.
2009-08-01 7:43 ` Alex Riesen
2009-07-30 7:52 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-07-30 8:31 ` Jakub Narebski
2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: J.H. @ 2009-07-30 7:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark A Rada; +Cc: git
Mark A Rada wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I thought I would submit this little patch I made to my gitweb. I am on
> a relatively slow
> connection, and so LZMA compression time is less of a concern than
> bandwidth---I'm
> guessing that I am not the only person who suffers from slow internet
> connection
> syndrome.
>
>
> --
> Mark A Rada (ferrous26)
> marada@uwaterloo.ca
Don't use 'lzma' the command, use 'xz' ( http://tukaani.org/xz/ ) as it
uses the lzma2 format which is, by far, preferable to what 'lzma'
outputs. Same compression (lzma) just different file format.
- John 'Warthog9' Hawley
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-07-30 7:44 ` J.H.
@ 2009-08-01 7:43 ` Alex Riesen
2009-08-01 14:34 ` Dmitry Potapov
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Alex Riesen @ 2009-08-01 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: J.H.; +Cc: Mark A Rada, git
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:44, J.H.<warthog19@eaglescrag.net> wrote:
> Don't use 'lzma' the command, use 'xz' ( http://tukaani.org/xz/ ) as it uses
The host seems to be down.
> the lzma2 format which is, by far, preferable to what 'lzma' outputs. Same
> compression (lzma) just different file format.
And the whole project seems to be very young (listen on ohloh since 2007).
And it is not in current stable distributions. Exotic thing.
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-08-01 7:43 ` Alex Riesen
@ 2009-08-01 14:34 ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-08-01 14:38 ` André Goddard Rosa
2009-08-01 14:58 ` Jim Meyering
2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Potapov @ 2009-08-01 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alex Riesen; +Cc: J.H., Mark A Rada, git
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 09:43:39AM +0200, Alex Riesen wrote:
>
> And the whole project seems to be very young (listen on ohloh since 2007).
> And it is not in current stable distributions. Exotic thing.
The project seems to be it is developed together with Igor Pavlov, who
is the author of 7-Zip (and now 7-Zip also supports LZMA2 and XZ
format). Accordingly to Igor Pavlov:
LZMA2 provides the following advantages over LZMA:
1) Better compression ratio for data than can't be compressed.
It can store such blocks of data in uncompressed form.
Also it decompresses such data faster.
2) Better multithreading support. If you compress big file, LZMA2 can split
that file to chunks and compress these chunks in multiple threads.
Clearly XZ is not very popular yet, but I would not call it as exotic.
At least, I expect it to be supported by future distributives.
Dmitry
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-08-01 7:43 ` Alex Riesen
2009-08-01 14:34 ` Dmitry Potapov
@ 2009-08-01 14:38 ` André Goddard Rosa
2009-08-01 14:58 ` Jim Meyering
2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: André Goddard Rosa @ 2009-08-01 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alex Riesen; +Cc: J.H., Mark A Rada, git
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Alex Riesen<raa.lkml@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:44, J.H.<warthog19@eaglescrag.net> wrote:
>> Don't use 'lzma' the command, use 'xz' ( http://tukaani.org/xz/ ) as it uses
>
> The host seems to be down.
>
You can clone it here: git://ctrl.tukaani.org/xz.git
Best regards,
Andre
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-08-01 7:43 ` Alex Riesen
2009-08-01 14:34 ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-08-01 14:38 ` André Goddard Rosa
@ 2009-08-01 14:58 ` Jim Meyering
2009-08-01 18:51 ` Alex Riesen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jim Meyering @ 2009-08-01 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alex Riesen; +Cc: J.H., Mark A Rada, git
Alex Riesen wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:44, J.H.<warthog19@eaglescrag.net> wrote:
>> Don't use 'lzma' the command, use 'xz' ( http://tukaani.org/xz/ ) as it uses
>
> The host seems to be down.
>
>> the lzma2 format which is, by far, preferable to what 'lzma' outputs. Same
>> compression (lzma) just different file format.
>
> And the whole project seems to be very young (listen on ohloh since 2007).
> And it is not in current stable distributions. Exotic thing.
XZ is young, but worthy, imho.
It was added to Fedora 11 in the last few days.
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-08-01 14:58 ` Jim Meyering
@ 2009-08-01 18:51 ` Alex Riesen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Alex Riesen @ 2009-08-01 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jim Meyering; +Cc: J.H., Mark A Rada, git
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:58, Jim Meyering<jim@meyering.net> wrote:
> Alex Riesen wrote:
>> And it is not in current stable distributions. Exotic thing.
>
> XZ is young, but worthy, imho.
> It was added to Fedora 11 in the last few days.
Well, then maybe we should do by its good example and
support xz. In addition to .lzma, .7z, .cpio, etc.
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-07-30 5:48 Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots Mark A Rada
2009-07-30 7:44 ` J.H.
@ 2009-07-30 7:52 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-07-30 8:31 ` Jakub Narebski
2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2009-07-30 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark A Rada; +Cc: git
Hi,
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Mark A Rada wrote:
> I thought I would submit this little patch I made to my gitweb. I am on
> a relatively slow connection, and so LZMA compression time is less of a
> concern than bandwidth---I'm guessing that I am not the only person who
> suffers from slow internet connection syndrome.
That's great!
FWIW on this mailing list, we prefer to have patches inlined so that it is
easier for reviewers to comment (it is almost impossible to get any patch
into git.git without review, and because reviewing is such an ungratifying
job you want to make it easier).
The patch is pretty straight-forward, but I'd love to see some information
in the commit message about:
- performance numbers on the _server_ (i.e. how does the RAM and CPU load
compare to, say, bzip2?)
- how to disable/enable it (yes, it's in the documentation, but you can
make things easier still)
- whether it is turned on by default, and why.
Thanks,
Dscho
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-07-30 5:48 Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots Mark A Rada
2009-07-30 7:44 ` J.H.
2009-07-30 7:52 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2009-07-30 8:31 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-07-30 8:43 ` Johannes Schindelin
2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Narebski @ 2009-07-30 8:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark A Rada; +Cc: git
Mark A Rada <marada@uwaterloo.ca> writes:
> I thought I would submit this little patch I made to my gitweb. I am
> on a relatively slow connection, and so LZMA compression time is
> less of a concern than bandwidth---I'm guessing that I am not the
> only person who suffers from slow internet connection syndrome.
First, Documentation/SubmittingPatches states that we prefer inline
patches, with additional comments (like the one above) either between
"---\n" line and diffstat, or like I did here before patch with patch
separated by comment by e.g. "-- >8 --\n" (scissors) line.
If posting patch inline isn't possible, and you have to use
attachement (for example because mailer you use wraps lines), please
at least use 'text/plain' mimetype so patch can be viewed without need
to save it in separate file (this might require changing suffix from
'.patch' to '.txt').
Second, if you are using 'txz' as internal name for new snapshot
format, why not use 'XZ utils' instead of 'LZMA Utils', and use
'display' => 'txz', 'type' => 'application/x-xz' and
'suffix' => '.txz' (BTW. shouldn't suffix in your case be '.tar.lzma'
and not only '.lzma'?) and of course 'compressor' => ['xz']?
BTW. I wonder if it would be good idea to add support for this format
directly to git-archive... OTOH it would mean additional dependency.
--
Jakub Narebski
Git User's Survey 2009: http://tinyurl.com/GitSurvey2009
-- >8 --
From: Mark Rada <marada@uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: [PATCH] Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
Signed-off-by: Mark Rada <marada@uwaterloo.ca>
---
gitweb/gitweb.perl | 8 ++++++++
1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/gitweb/gitweb.perl b/gitweb/gitweb.perl
index 38492d0..e131ea4 100755
--- a/gitweb/gitweb.perl
+++ b/gitweb/gitweb.perl
@@ -184,6 +184,13 @@ our %known_snapshot_formats = (
'format' => 'tar',
'compressor' => ['bzip2']},
+ 'txz' => {
+ 'display' => 'tar.lzma',
+ 'type' => 'application/x-lzma',
+ 'suffix' => '.lzma',
+ 'format' => 'tar',
+ 'compressor' => ['lzma']},
+
'zip' => {
'display' => 'zip',
'type' => 'application/x-zip',
@@ -196,6 +203,7 @@ our %known_snapshot_formats = (
our %known_snapshot_format_aliases = (
'gzip' => 'tgz',
'bzip2' => 'tbz2',
+ 'lzma' => 'txz',
# backward compatibility: legacy gitweb config support
'x-gzip' => undef, 'gz' => undef,
--
1.6.4
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-07-30 8:31 ` Jakub Narebski
@ 2009-07-30 8:43 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-07-31 15:45 ` Felipe Contreras
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2009-07-30 8:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Narebski; +Cc: Mark A Rada, git
Hi,
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> BTW. I wonder if it would be good idea to add support for this format
> directly to git-archive... OTOH it would mean additional dependency.
I don't think it would be a good idea; we do not have bzip2 support
either.
The only reason we have inbuilt gzip and zip support is because the format
is so similar to Git's own compression.
Ciao,
Dscho
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-07-30 8:43 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2009-07-31 15:45 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-08-01 12:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-01 14:13 ` Dmitry Potapov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Felipe Contreras @ 2009-07-31 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johannes Schindelin; +Cc: Jakub Narebski, Mark A Rada, git
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Johannes
Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>
>> BTW. I wonder if it would be good idea to add support for this format
>> directly to git-archive... OTOH it would mean additional dependency.
>
> I don't think it would be a good idea; we do not have bzip2 support
> either.
bzip2 has no advantages whatsoever. AFAIK xz is superior to other
formats and it would be nice to see git make a technological stance
encouraging xz.
> The only reason we have inbuilt gzip and zip support is because the format
> is so similar to Git's own compression.
Personally I don't see the point of having zip support.
--
Felipe Contreras
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-07-31 15:45 ` Felipe Contreras
@ 2009-08-01 12:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-01 13:10 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-08-01 14:13 ` Dmitry Potapov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2009-08-01 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Felipe Contreras; +Cc: Jakub Narebski, Mark A Rada, git
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Hi,
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Johannes
> Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> >
> >> BTW. I wonder if it would be good idea to add support for this format
> >> directly to git-archive... OTOH it would mean additional dependency.
> >
> > I don't think it would be a good idea; we do not have bzip2 support
> > either.
>
> bzip2 has no advantages whatsoever.
Bzzzzt. Wrong. Just because you cannot see them does not mean it has no
advantages.
> AFAIK xz is superior to other formats and it would be nice to see git
> make a technological stance encouraging xz.
Bzzzt. Wrong again. Git's mission in life is not to encourage one
compression over another.
If at all, the only compression Git actually does promote in a sense is
zlib compression.
> > The only reason we have inbuilt gzip and zip support is because the
> > format is so similar to Git's own compression.
>
> Personally I don't see the point of having zip support.
Personally, I see the point of having zip support. It makes things easy
for Windows users. And it's an established format, much more so than
tar.gz.
Ciao,
Dscho
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-08-01 12:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2009-08-01 13:10 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-08-01 14:04 ` Erik Faye-Lund
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Felipe Contreras @ 2009-08-01 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johannes Schindelin; +Cc: Jakub Narebski, Mark A Rada, git
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Johannes
Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Johannes
>> Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>> >
>> >> BTW. I wonder if it would be good idea to add support for this format
>> >> directly to git-archive... OTOH it would mean additional dependency.
>> >
>> > I don't think it would be a good idea; we do not have bzip2 support
>> > either.
>>
>> bzip2 has no advantages whatsoever.
>
> Bzzzzt. Wrong. Just because you cannot see them does not mean it has no
> advantages.
All right, most the time you compress once, and multiple people
uncompress multiple times. Therefore the path that should be optimized
is the decompression, that leaves bzip2 out of the picture.
You can think of advantages of bzip2 in more esoteric cases where the
compression time is also important. I don't think that's the case
here. Actually it might be if gitweb is not caching the tarballs, but
if that's the case I wouldn't say it's an advantage of bzip2.
>> AFAIK xz is superior to other formats and it would be nice to see git
>> make a technological stance encouraging xz.
>
> Bzzzt. Wrong again. Git's mission in life is not to encourage one
> compression over another.
Git's mission in life is not promoting asciidot either, but it's doing
that unintentionally by merely using it.
> If at all, the only compression Git actually does promote in a sense is
> zlib compression.
>
>> > The only reason we have inbuilt gzip and zip support is because the
>> > format is so similar to Git's own compression.
>>
>> Personally I don't see the point of having zip support.
>
> Personally, I see the point of having zip support. It makes things easy
> for Windows users. And it's an established format, much more so than
> tar.gz.
Windows can't extract .tar.gz?
--
Felipe Contreras
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-08-01 13:10 ` Felipe Contreras
@ 2009-08-01 14:04 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2009-08-01 16:07 ` Mark A Rada
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Erik Faye-Lund @ 2009-08-01 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Felipe Contreras; +Cc: Johannes Schindelin, Jakub Narebski, Mark A Rada, git
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Felipe
Contreras<felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:
> Windows can't extract .tar.gz?
Not without installing 3. party software. Zip-support is built into
the operating system.
--
Erik "kusma" Faye-Lund
kusmabite@gmail.com
(+47) 986 59 656
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-08-01 14:04 ` Erik Faye-Lund
@ 2009-08-01 16:07 ` Mark A Rada
2009-08-01 21:39 ` Erik Faye-Lund
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Mark A Rada @ 2009-08-01 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Erik Faye-Lund; +Cc: git
On 1-Aug-09, at 10:04 AM, Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Felipe
> Contreras<felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Windows can't extract .tar.gz?
>
> Not without installing 3. party software. Zip-support is built into
> the operating system.
>
> --
> Erik "kusma" Faye-Lund
> kusmabite@gmail.com
> (+47) 986 59 656
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FWIW, Windows doesn't seem to come with a whole lot, and you need
3rd party software for a number of things, BUT that is also one of the
primary reasons that I need to be able to quickly get snapshots from
my Git repositories at home, and using zip format is convenient if I am
in an extremely restrictive environment and cannot get a smaller XZ
compressed snapshot :).
--
Mark A Rada (ferrous26)
marada@uwaterloo.ca
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* Re: Add Gitweb support for LZMA compressed snapshots
2009-07-31 15:45 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-08-01 12:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2009-08-01 14:13 ` Dmitry Potapov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Potapov @ 2009-08-01 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Felipe Contreras; +Cc: Johannes Schindelin, Jakub Narebski, Mark A Rada, git
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:45:02PM +0000, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>
> bzip2 has no advantages whatsoever. AFAIK xz is superior to other
> formats and it would be nice to see git make a technological stance
> encouraging xz.
git is not about encouraging any compression. If you have not noticed,
git-archive produces tar and not tgz (though it would not be difficult
to implement it, because we use zlib anyway). If you like xz and it is
installed on your system, you can always compress tar with it:
git archive HEAD | xz > my-archive.tar.xz
So, I see no reason to have this compression coupled with git.
>
> > The only reason we have inbuilt gzip and zip support is because the format
> > is so similar to Git's own compression.
>
> Personally I don't see the point of having zip support.
zip is still a popular format on Windows. If git archive was not able to
produce then creating would require creating tar first, extracting it to
some temporary directory and then creating a zip file. It is not very
efficient process and requires extra efforts, so because we use zlib
compression anyway, it makes perfect sense that we can create zip file
directly.
Dmitry
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