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From: Artur Skawina <art.08.09@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] block-sha1: improved SHA1 hashing
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:53:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A7B7B21.1000001@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908061609340.3390@localhost.localdomain>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Just out of curiosity, does anything change if you change the
> 
> 	B = SHA_ROR(B,2)
> 
> into a
> 
> 	B = SHA_ROR(SHA_ROR(B,1),1)
> 
> instead? It's very possible that it becomes _much_ worse, but I guess it's 

Did try that yesterday, didn't help. Will recheck now.. yep:

before: linus          0.3554       171.7
after:  linus           0.407         150

still true for the current version.

> So optimizing for P4 is often the wrong thing.
> 
> Secondly, P4's are going away. You may have one, but they are getting 
> rare. So optimizing for them is a losing proposition in the long run.

Sure, no argument; it's just that avoiding the P4 pitfalls is usually
not that hard and the impact on other, non-netburst, archs is low.
There are a lot of P4s out there and they're not going away soon.
(i'm still keeping most of my git trees on a P3...)

For generic C code such as this the difference for your i7 was -2% and
+70% for my P4; all the other (but one, i think) optimizations which
worked on P4 also applied to 32-bit i7. As i happen to have a p4 i can
just as well test the code on it, many improvements will likely apply
to other cpus too. That's all, i doubt anybody seriously considered
"optimizing for P4"; there is a reason intel discontinued them :)

The atom is a more important target, but only the asm versions did well
there so far.

artur

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-07  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-06 15:13 [PATCH 0/7] block-sha1: improved SHA1 hashing Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 15:15 ` [PATCH 1/7] block-sha1: add new optimized C 'block-sha1' routines Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 15:16   ` [PATCH 2/7] block-sha1: try to use rol/ror appropriately Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 15:18     ` [PATCH 3/7] block-sha1: make the 'ntohl()' part of the first SHA1 loop Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 15:20       ` [PATCH 4/7] block-sha1: re-use the temporary array as we calculate the SHA1 Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 15:22         ` [PATCH 5/7] block-sha1: macroize the rounds a bit further Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 15:24           ` [PATCH 6/7] block-sha1: Use '(B&C)+(D&(B^C))' instead of '(B&C)|(D&(B|C))' in round 3 Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 15:25             ` [PATCH 7/7] block-sha1: get rid of redundant 'lenW' context Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 18:25     ` [PATCH 2/7] block-sha1: try to use rol/ror appropriately Bert Wesarg
2009-08-06 17:22 ` [PATCH 0/7] block-sha1: improved SHA1 hashing Artur Skawina
2009-08-06 18:09   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 19:10     ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06 19:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 20:08         ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06 20:53           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 21:24             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 21:39             ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06 21:52               ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06 22:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 22:33                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 23:19                     ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06 23:42                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 22:55                   ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06 23:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06 23:25                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-07  0:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-07  1:30                           ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-07  1:55                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-07  0:53                         ` Artur Skawina [this message]
2009-08-07  2:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-07  4:16                     ` Artur Skawina
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     [not found]                       ` <4A7CBD28.6070306@gmail.com>
     [not found]                         ` <4A7CBF47.9000903@gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908071700290.3288@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                             ` <4A7CC380.3070008@gmail.com>
2009-08-08  4:16                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-08  5:34                                 ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-08 17:10                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-08 18:12                                     ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-08 22:58                                   ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-08 23:36                                     ` Artur Skawina
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2009-08-07  7:36 George Spelvin

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