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From: Andy Polyakov <appro@fy.chalmers.se>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: x86 SHA1: Faster than OpenSSL
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:50:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8B2216.6080607@fy.chalmers.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908031938280.3270@localhost.localdomain>

> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> The thing that I'd prefer is simply
>>
>> 	git fsck --full
>>
>> on the Linux kernel archive. For me (with a fast machine), it takes about 
>> 4m30s with the OpenSSL SHA1, and takes 6m40s with the Mozilla SHA1 (ie 
>> using a NO_OPENSSL=1 build).
>>
>> So that's an example of a load that is actually very sensitive to SHA1 
>> performance (more so than _most_ git loads, I suspect), and at the same 
>> time is a real git load rather than some SHA1-only microbenchmark.

I couldn't agree more that real-life benchmarks are of greater value
than specific algorithm micro-benchmark. And given the provided
profiling data one can argue that +17% (or my +12%) improvement on
micro-benchmark aren't really worth bothering about. But it's kind of
sport [at least for me], so don't judge too harshly:-)

>> It also 
>> shows very clearly why we default to the OpenSSL version over the Mozilla 
>> one.

As George implicitly mentioned most OpenSSL assembler modules are
available under more permissive license and if there is interest I'm
ready to assist...

> "perf report --sort comm,dso,symbol" profiling shows the following for 
> 'git fsck --full' on the kernel repo, using the Mozilla SHA1:
> 
>     47.69%               git  /home/torvalds/git/git     [.] moz_SHA1_Update
>     22.98%               git  /lib64/libz.so.1.2.3       [.] inflate_fast
>      7.32%               git  /lib64/libc-2.10.1.so      [.] __GI_memcpy
>      4.66%               git  /lib64/libz.so.1.2.3       [.] inflate
>      3.76%               git  /lib64/libz.so.1.2.3       [.] adler32
>      2.86%               git  /lib64/libz.so.1.2.3       [.] inflate_table
>      2.41%               git  /home/torvalds/git/git     [.] lookup_object
>      1.31%               git  /lib64/libc-2.10.1.so      [.] _int_malloc
>      0.84%               git  /home/torvalds/git/git     [.] patch_delta
>      0.78%               git  [kernel]                   [k] hpet_next_event
> 
> so yeah, SHA1 performance matters. Judging by the OpenSSL numbers, the 
> OpenSSL SHA1 implementation must be about twice as fast as the C version 
> we use.

And given /lib64 path this is 64-bit C compiler-generated code compared
to 32-bit assembler? Either way in this context I have extra comment
addressing previous subscriber, Mark Lodato, who effectively wondered
how would 64-bit assembler compare to 32-bit one. First of all there
*is* even 64-bit assembler version. But as SHA1 is essentially 32-bit
algorithm, 64-bit implementation is only nominally faster, +20% at most.
Faster thanks to larger register bank facilitating more efficient
instruction scheduling.

Cheers. A.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-18 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-26 23:21 Performance issue of 'git branch' George Spelvin
2009-07-31 10:46 ` Request for benchmarking: x86 SHA1 code George Spelvin
2009-07-31 11:11   ` Erik Faye-Lund
2009-07-31 11:31     ` George Spelvin
2009-07-31 11:37     ` Michael J Gruber
2009-07-31 12:24       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2009-07-31 12:29         ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-07-31 12:32         ` George Spelvin
2009-07-31 12:45           ` Erik Faye-Lund
2009-07-31 13:02             ` George Spelvin
2009-07-31 11:21   ` Michael J Gruber
2009-07-31 11:26   ` Michael J Gruber
2009-07-31 12:31   ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-31 13:27   ` Brian Ristuccia
2009-07-31 14:05     ` George Spelvin
2009-07-31 13:27   ` Jakub Narebski
2009-07-31 15:05   ` Peter Harris
2009-07-31 15:22   ` Peter Harris
2009-08-03  3:47   ` x86 SHA1: Faster than OpenSSL George Spelvin
2009-08-03  7:36     ` Jonathan del Strother
2009-08-04  1:40     ` Mark Lodato
2009-08-04  2:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-04  2:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-04  3:07         ` Jon Smirl
2009-08-04  5:01           ` George Spelvin
2009-08-04 12:56             ` Jon Smirl
2009-08-04 14:29               ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-08-18 21:50         ` Andy Polyakov [this message]
2009-08-04  4:48       ` George Spelvin
2009-08-04  6:30         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-04  8:01           ` George Spelvin
2009-08-04 20:41             ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-05 18:17               ` George Spelvin
2009-08-05 20:36                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-05 20:44                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-05 20:55                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-05 23:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  1:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  1:52                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-08-06  2:04                         ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-06  2:10                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  2:20                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-08-06  2:08                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  3:19                           ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06  3:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  3:48                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  4:01                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  4:28                                   ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06  4:50                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  5:19                                       ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06  7:03                                         ` George Spelvin
2009-08-06  4:52                                 ` George Spelvin
2009-08-06  4:08                               ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06  4:27                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-06  5:44                                   ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06  5:56                                     ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06  7:45                                       ` Artur Skawina
2009-08-06 18:49                       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2009-08-04  6:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-18 21:26     ` Andy Polyakov

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