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From: A Large Angry SCM <gitzilla@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] grep: --full-tree
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:07:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0DB894.7010800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091125225318.GA10127@coredump.intra.peff.net>

Jeff King wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 05:41:33PM -0500, A Large Angry SCM wrote:
> 
>>> I agree with all of this as far as changing the default goes. But the
>>> point of my earlier messages was that I don't think there _is_ one sane
>>> default. I really do want it different per-project. And that means a
>>> configuration option.
>> Since grep is so useful, both interactively and scripted, outside of
>> git, this is a pretty convincing argument that git-grep, and all
>> other git commands with configurable behavior or defaults that change
>> over time, need a both a scripting form and an interactive form.
> 
> It is tempting to have scripts simply set a GIT_VANILLA environment
> variable to ignore config options. But I think it is not quite so
> simple. As a script, if I am calling "git log", do I want it to respect
> the user's colorization config or not? It depends on _how_ I am calling
> it. Is the output to be shown to the user, or am I going to process it
> myself?
> 
> Similarly, why is the script calling "git grep"? If it is because the
> script is a convenience wrapper (e.g., let's say to colorize the output
> in a particular way), then it probably wants to respect my configured
> choice of which files to grep. But if the script is just using "git
> grep" to get data to perform some other calculation, then it probably
> does care deeply about which set of files to grep.
> 
> So I think you have situations where scripts do want to invoke the
> porcelain version of a command versus the plumbing. But much harder, you
> have ones where they want to respect some options but not others.

<semi rhetorical>
So, what's the solution?

Have every command command take a list of configuration options to 
ignore/respect?

Have every command take an option to ignore/respect _all_ configuration 
options?

Have inconsistency between commands, like we have now

Have commands have all kinds of hidden/undocumented default settings?
</semi rhetorical>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-25 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-24  8:56 [PATCH] grep: --full-tree Junio C Hamano
2009-11-25 13:16 ` Michael J Gruber
2009-11-25 19:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-25 14:56 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-11-25 19:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-25 20:19     ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-11-25 20:23       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-25 20:46         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-11-25 23:31           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-25 23:29             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-11-25 20:52     ` Jeff King
2009-11-25 20:39 ` Jeff King
2009-11-25 20:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-25 21:00     ` Jeff King
2009-11-25 21:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-25 21:49         ` Jeff King
2009-11-25 22:12           ` James Pickens
2009-11-25 22:20             ` Jeff King
2009-11-26 17:56               ` James Pickens
2009-11-27  6:20                 ` Jeff King
2009-11-27  8:18                   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-27  9:31                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-27  9:59                     ` Jeff King
2009-11-27 10:53                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-27 16:27                         ` Uri Okrent
2009-11-27 18:29                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-27 18:47                             ` Uri Okrent
2009-11-27 20:53                               ` Jeff King
2009-11-29 19:50                                 ` Uri Okrent
2009-11-29 11:48                             ` Felipe Contreras
2009-11-27 18:02                         ` Jeff King
2009-11-27 20:07                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-27 21:05                             ` Jeff King
2009-11-29 10:28                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-29 18:32                                 ` Jeff King
2009-11-29 19:49                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-29 12:13                             ` Felipe Contreras
2009-11-27 18:29                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-27 20:50                         ` Jeff King
2009-11-29 10:21                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-29 18:24                             ` Jeff King
2009-11-27 10:37                     ` Matthieu Moy
2009-11-27 10:56                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-25 22:26             ` Wincent Colaiuta
2009-11-26  0:00               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-26  0:16                 ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-11-26  0:20                   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-26  0:30                     ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-11-26  0:36                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-26 18:14                 ` James Pickens
2009-11-25 22:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-25 22:26             ` Jeff King
2009-11-25 22:41               ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-11-25 22:53                 ` Jeff King
2009-11-25 23:07                   ` A Large Angry SCM [this message]
2009-11-25 23:22                     ` Jeff King
2009-11-29 11:38                       ` Felipe Contreras
2009-11-29 19:45                         ` Uri Okrent
2009-11-26  0:02               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-27  6:22                 ` Jeff King
2009-11-25 22:15         ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-11-25 22:21           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-25 22:31             ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-11-25 22:43               ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-11-25 23:34         ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-25 23:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-26  0:04             ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-11-26  0:13               ` Junio C Hamano

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