From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Ericsson Subject: Re: Fix signal handler Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:23:24 +0100 Message-ID: <4B6A75EC.6030509@op5.se> References: <4B684F5F.7020409@web.de> <20100203102915.GA25486@coredump.intra.peff.net> <4B696447.10803@web.de> <201002031412.53195.trast@student.ethz.ch> <4B699A45.7000905@web.de> <4B699C08.50400@op5.se> <4B69A34B.7010309@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thomas Rast , Jeff King , git@vger.kernel.org To: Markus Elfring X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Feb 04 08:23:34 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ncw3o-0007El-CN for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:23:32 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755551Ab0BDHX1 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Feb 2010 02:23:27 -0500 Received: from na3sys009aog113.obsmtp.com ([74.125.149.209]:54754 "HELO na3sys009aog113.obsmtp.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1755201Ab0BDHX0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Feb 2010 02:23:26 -0500 Received: from source ([209.85.219.215]) by na3sys009aob113.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKS2p17as5kQBTgBNgXNe1DLpcnDBTFkW1@postini.com; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:23:26 PST Received: by mail-ew0-f215.google.com with SMTP id 7so435193ewy.10 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.1.143 with SMTP id 15mr583356ebf.42.1265268205368; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from clix.int.op5.se (90-227-176-162-no128.tbcn.telia.com [90.227.176.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm360336ewy.2.2010.02.03.23.23.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:23:24 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100120 Fedora/3.0.1-1.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0.1 ThunderGit/0.1a In-Reply-To: <4B69A34B.7010309@web.de> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 02/03/2010 05:24 PM, Markus Elfring wrote: > >> >> The general feeling on this list is that patches are listened to, no >> matter how foul they are, and you will get a (hopefully) polite >> rejection if it is considered useless because it addresses a problem >> that doesn't exist. >> > > I hope that a healthy balance will be found between correct software > design, development and quick "hacking". What's considered a "healthy balance" varies from person to person though. > There might also be more > efforts if too many patches will be rejected just because the suggested > and planned changes were not discussed before. > Perhaps, but those wasted efforts would have been yours, not ours. Sorry, but the sad fact is that unless you're willing to "fix" this (which you should show by submitting patches), it's entirely uninteresting to even discuss it. We're all busy folks here, and we do not have unlimited time on our hands to masturbate mentally when most of us realize that it's not a practical approach to blindly follow standards. > Would you like to get an acknowledgement for signal handler problems > from people in other discussion groups like "comp.programming.threads"? > No. I have no interest in theoretical best practices for a program that has no known issues with its use of multiple threads. I do have interest in bug-reports about my favourite scm and patches to make it better. So far you have only shown a willingness to discuss possible problems instead of real-world ones. I've mentally marked you down as "the threads theory troll". To remedy that sad title, you should deliver some patches pointing out and fixing problems in the sources. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace.