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From: A Large Angry SCM <gitzilla@gmail.com>
To: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com>,
	"Mike.lifeguard" <mike.lifeguard@gmail.com>,
	Avery Pennarun <apenwarr@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>, git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Tree with leading '0' modes in 1.7.0.3
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:30:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BAE5CB9.6020905@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100327191405.GF10910@spearce.org>

Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
> Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010, Scott Chacon wrote:
>>>> My stance has always been that the C Git is authoritative with regards to
>>>> formats and protocols. ??It's up to Github to fix their screw-up.
>>> It is fixed and will be deployed soon, but really, there is no reason
>>> to be snippy.  It is a simple and minor mistake effecting very few
>>> repositories (maybe 100 out of 730k)
> 
> What is the C Git stance on these 100 repositories then?  Are they
> now considered corrupt?  Or is 100 enough in the wild that we have
> to accept the problem, just like we accept the 10664 mode issue from
> "ancient" Linux?
> 
> I would love to say "those are corrupt, sorry, fix your repository".
> 
> But we have traditionally tried to help our users, and not cause
> them pain.  Forcing a rewrite on these 100 projects to fix up the
> corruption is going to be painful for them.  
> 
>>> , and the only reason it's an
>>> issue at all is that JGit is not following the authoritative CGit
>>> implementation of basically ignoring it.
>> But again CGit's fsck is not ignoring this discrepancy.  And if the CGit 
>> core is otherwise silently accepting it then it is a mistake.
> 
> Right.  I tend to agree.  CGit was too lax here, fsck shouldn't
> be issuing a warning, it should be a fatal error.  Both CGit and
> JGit are too lax by not failing when reading that tree during
> normal processing.
>  
>>> Also, if we're all concerned about "Git reimplementation du jour"
>>> deviations, then we need to focus on libifying Git so there isn't a
>>> need for such re-implementations.  I'm hoping to help with a possible
>>> GSoC project on libgit2, but the lack of a linkable library will
>>> ensure that re-implementations in nearly every useful language will
>>> continue.
>> Don't get me wrong.  I'm not against Git reimplementations per se, as 
>> long as they rigorously implement the exact format and protocol from 
>> CGit.  In that sense it is important that the CGit fsck and verify-pack 
>> tools be exploited on objects/packs produced by alternate Git 
>> implementation systematically to find such issues.
> 
> When JGit had the tree sort order wrong, JGit was in the wrong,
> and any repository which contained those corrupt trees had to be
> fixed by rewriting them.  IIRC it was only the JGit repository
> itself that had this problem in the wild.  But we fixed our code.
> 
> IMHO, this leading '0' thing is a similar breakage.  We shouldn't
> relax CGit or JGit to accept it just because the Ruby implementation
> of Git got the tree encoding wrong.  If anything, we should teach
> these implementations to catch these sorts of problems earlier.
> 

Just add an additional data point, it looks like up to 16 of these trees 
with zero-padded file modes are reachable from Linus' kernel master ref.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-27 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-26 21:56 Tree with leading '0' modes in 1.7.0.3 Shawn O. Pearce
2010-03-26 22:26 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-03-26 22:29   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-03-26 22:40     ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-03-26 23:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-03-26 22:59     ` Mike.lifeguard
2010-03-26 23:05       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-03-26 23:22         ` Mike.lifeguard
2010-03-26 23:49           ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-03-26 23:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-03-26 23:56           ` Avery Pennarun
2010-03-27  0:00             ` Mike.lifeguard
2010-03-27  1:22               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-03-27  1:30                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-27  1:34                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-03-27  1:56                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-27  2:33                       ` Avery Pennarun
2010-03-27 12:44                       ` Scott Chacon
2010-03-27 14:21                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-27 19:14                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-03-27 19:30                             ` A Large Angry SCM [this message]
2010-03-27 19:32                               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-03-27 19:39                                 ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-03-27 19:44                                   ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-03-27 19:57                                     ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-03-28 17:38                                     ` Sitaram Chamarty
2010-03-28 23:28                                       ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-03-27 20:13                             ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-03-27 20:16                             ` Junio C Hamano
2010-03-27 22:16                             ` Avery Pennarun
2010-03-27  5:16                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-03-27 19:20                       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-03-27 20:04                         ` Junio C Hamano

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