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From: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Aghiles <aghilesk@gmail.com>,
	git list <git@vger.kernel.org>, Kim Ebert <kd7ike@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Useless error message?
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:59:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BD01E09.8080504@op5.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100422094153.GA504@progeny.tock>

On 04/22/2010 11:42 AM, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
>> The true story is a bit different.
>>
>> To avoid information leak to git-daemon clients, we deliberately choose
>> not to give detailed error messages, so that you cannot tell if an error
>> means a user "u" does not exist or "u" does but ~u/repo.git repository
>> does not exist.
> 
> Thanks for the clarification.  As I see it, these are two different
> classes of problem:
> 
> 1. The git daemon is very quiet, usually for good reason, as you
>     mentioned [1] [2].
> 
> 2. The git daemon and protocol helpers do not always send the datum “a
>     controlled fatal error occured” by writing some message (any
>     message) to side band 3.
> 
> [1] I do suspect that in the case of failing enter_repo() or missing
> git-daemon-export-ok, saying “cannot read the specified repo” would be
> fine.  Most of the time, there is not much value in disclosing a more
> detailed reason, anyway.
> 

That would make it possible for random attackers to determine whether
a specific user exists on the system, which is very bad indeed.

> [2] Example fix for a problem in this class:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/139029

That's a different problem. We only end up in {send,receive}-pack if
the remote user asked for an existing repository, which means he or
she is either a very determined guesser or, more likely, already
knows that the user exists and where he or she keeps git repos. A
possible issue, to be sure, but definitely a far narrower window
than just guessing a username.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-22  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-21 21:17 Useless error message? Aghiles
2010-04-21 21:29 ` Kim Ebert
2010-04-21 22:19 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22  6:33   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-22  9:42     ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22  9:59       ` Andreas Ericsson [this message]
2010-04-22 10:15         ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 10:27           ` Andreas Ericsson
2010-04-22 10:38             ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 12:44       ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-04-22 22:21         ` [PATCH] daemon: report inaccessible repositories to user Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 11:56   ` Useless error message? Petr Baudis
2010-04-22 20:13     ` Aghiles

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