From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael J Gruber Subject: Re: Johannes misbehavior in the wiki, and a request for admin rights (was: wiki "abuse") Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:54:36 +0200 Message-ID: <4C613DFC.40006@drmicha.warpmail.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Johannes Schindelin , John Hawley , git , Daniele Segato , Valeo de Vries To: Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Aug 10 13:54:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OinPX-00044h-D8 for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:54:27 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757460Ab0HJLyX (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:54:23 -0400 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:59929 "EHLO out1.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756686Ab0HJLyW (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:54:22 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FA750D; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:54:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=nlBLbeyTzAwSDgdqSLb4LnMuq4M=; b=I2/pwuFRkvm54JFkh2zr0D+biuS5d2Y2acjqmNtUbFvAJm8jzj6uvWzFtGwo+yK6sEnCQFAewoRlXVdHwoHPxqWGtYTiUan+geJp1IPWf7uA87o/nxT0gGJlefQ9FZUTqrJwtk+B79XyP+CVGWKdYXfY5Z2CSSF7tw674XhMHeM= X-Sasl-enc: K3z+sAUuyWhOb1byvtBe1hrVjAiiK3NWGhQLHqBO90qI 1281441261 Received: from localhost.localdomain (heawood.math.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.44.4]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB9805E0564; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:54:20 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9pre) Gecko/20100806 Lightning/1.0b2pre Lanikai/3.1.2 In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Oh, pleaaaze, no (on the subject line). No need for more fuel in this topic. Felipe Contreras venit, vidit, dixit 10.08.2010 12:18: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Johannes Schindelin > wrote: >> As for the accusation that there was no explanation: this is false. > > Where is the evidence that you warned the user _before_ banning him? > The evidence is that Dscho says so. The counter evidence is that Amir says otherwise. Knowing Dscho, I consider an occasional rash of quick-shooting possible; I consider it impossible that he's dishonest with us here. Note that what is an "explanation" to one person may not be one to another one, especially across two language and culture barriers. In particular, my statement about Dscho's credibility does not imply any statement about Amir's. [...] > I'd like to propose myself as sysop in order to make the wiki more > hospitable. [more detailed proposal cut out] Looking at the history of our wiki I don't see any need to overshoot as a result of this mostly singular incident. It should suffice to - reactivate Amir's account - make a clear statement about user pages (limit, discourage or disable) Michael P.S.: wiki discussions should stay on this list to avoid the type of dis-association which has happened with git-scm.com and whatever names itself "The Git Community Foo".