From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sam Vilain Subject: Re: [RFC] fast-import: notemodify (N) command Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:37:41 +1300 Message-ID: <4D4739B5.6080103@vilain.net> References: <1255083738-23263-1-git-send-email-johan@herland.net> <1255083738-23263-8-git-send-email-johan@herland.net> <20110131183350.GB31826@burratino> <20110131190128.GC32374@burratino> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jonathan Nieder , vcs-fast-import-devs@lists.launchpad.net, git@drmicha.warpmail.net, chriscool@tuxfamily.org, Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de, trast@student.ethz.ch, Johan Herland , gitster@pobox.com, git@vger.kernel.org, Augie Fackler To: Sverre Rabbelier X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Jan 31 23:37:56 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pk2Ne-0005Fb-PE for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:37:55 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756537Ab1AaWhu (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:37:50 -0500 Received: from mx3.orcon.net.nz ([219.88.242.53]:50610 "EHLO mx3.orcon.net.nz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756354Ab1AaWht (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:37:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by mx3.orcon.net.nz with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pk2NX-0004Id-RR for git@vger.kernel.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:37:47 +1300 Received: from [60.234.254.246] (helo=mail.utsl.gen.nz) by mx3.orcon.net.nz with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pk2NX-0004IS-Jk for git@vger.kernel.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:37:47 +1300 Received: by mail.utsl.gen.nz (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D6EC2E023; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:37:47 +1300 (NZDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on naos.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from [192.168.1.54] (arcturus.lan [192.168.1.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.utsl.gen.nz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0BC322E021; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:37:42 +1300 (NZDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 X-DSPAM-Check: by mx3.orcon.net.nz on Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:37:47 +1300 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 1 11:37:47 2011 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.5564 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 01/02/11 10:19, Sverre Rabbelier wrote: > That's another thing Augie mentioned that he (and I guess the hg > community at large) dislikes, the fact that they're not propagated. This is not a "fact". If you add configuration in your git config to fetch and push the refs, then they are propagated. Just because you disagree with the current interface or defaults doesn't mean the design is wrong. I hear the same arguments against submodules, which is a shame because the message isn't getting through to people that the porcelain can and should be extended to make people's lives easier. It's just that instead of second-guessing what shape they should take, the design and plumbing are written so that people can write scripts to make it work. It's a slower path, but you end up with a better tool at the end of it. Sam