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From: Victor Engmark <victor.engmark@terreactive.ch>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Drew Northup <drew.northup@maine.edu>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	Piotr Krukowiecki <piotr.krukowiecki.news@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Consistent terminology: cached/staged/index
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:43:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6CB1B3.1010005@terreactive.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878466.93199.1298934204331.JavaMail.trustmail@mail1.terreactive.ch>

On 03/01/2011 12:03 AM, Jeff King wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:34:00AM -0500, Drew Northup wrote:

> One analogy I like for the index is that it's a bucket. It starts out
> full of files from the last commit. You can put new, changed files in
> the bucket. When it looks good, you dump the bucket into a commit. You
> can have multiple buckets if you want. You can pull files from other
> commits and put them in the bucket. You can take files out of the bucket
> and put them in your work tree.
> 
> So maybe it should just be called "the bucket"?
> 
> I'm not sure that's a good idea, because while the analogy makes sense,
> it doesn't by itself convey any meaning. That is, knowing the concept, I
> can see that bucket is a fine term. But hearing about git's bucket, I
> have no clue what it means. Whereas "staging area" I think is a bit more
> specific, _if_ you know what a staging area is.
> 
> So there are two questions:
> 
>   1. Is there a more universal term that means something like "staging
>      area"?
> 
>   2. Is the term "staging area", while meaningful to some, actually
>      _worse_ to others than a term like "bucket"? That is, does it sound
>      complex and scary, when it is really a simple thing. And while
>      people won't know what the "git bucket" is off the bat, it is
>      relatively easy to learn.

I like the name "git bucket", as in "a git bit bucket", but semantically
the connection is just "a container". Especially for beginners this can
result in the wrong connotations:
* Limited size. A modern harddisk is vastly larger than most Git
repositories, likening it more to a container ship than a bucket.
* Definite size. Harddisk space availability varies with time, unlike
most containers.
* Non-linear use. A full physical bucket could be used for many
different things, but a full git bucket can either be forgotten (with
checkout), remembered temporarily (with stash), or remembered
permanently (with commit).
* Container-specific features irrelevant for git: Handles, translucency
(or not), depth, material, dimensions of the opening...

How about a metaphor like "plan"? You either cancel/undo it (git
checkout), postpone / shelf it (git stash), resume/continue it (git
stash apply) or commit to it. Coming from the desktop metaphor, I
personally like `git undo`, `git postpone/resume` and `git commit` -
They give a clear sense of direction towards the commit, and much
clearer verbs for those new to VC in general.

-- 
Victor Engmark

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-01  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-13 19:20 Consistent terminology: cached/staged/index Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-13 19:37 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-13 22:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14  2:05     ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14  5:57       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14  6:27         ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14  6:59           ` Johannes Sixt
2011-02-14  7:07             ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 10:42               ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 11:04                 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 17:12                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 22:07                     ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 22:59                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 23:47                         ` Miles Bader
2011-02-15  0:12                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 13:14                 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 13:43                   ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 13:57                     ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 14:17                     ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14 14:21                       ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 14:40                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-02-14 15:24                       ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 16:00                         ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14 16:04                           ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 16:27                             ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14  3:09     ` Pete Harlan
2011-02-16 23:11       ` Drew Northup
2011-02-26 20:36         ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-27 15:30           ` Drew Northup
2011-02-27 21:16       ` Aghiles
2011-02-28 20:53         ` Drew Northup
2011-02-14 22:32     ` Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-14 23:19       ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-15  8:29         ` Pete Harlan
2011-02-15  9:00           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-15 18:15         ` Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-15 18:38           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-26 21:09         ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-26 21:51           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-27  0:01             ` Miles Bader
2011-02-27  0:16             ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-27  0:46               ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-27  8:15               ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-27  8:43           ` Jeff King
2011-02-27  9:21             ` Miles Bader
2011-02-27 22:28               ` Jon Seymour
2011-02-27 23:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-28  9:38                   ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-27 15:34             ` Drew Northup
2011-02-28 23:03               ` Jeff King
2011-03-01  9:11                 ` David
2011-03-01  9:15                   ` Matthieu Moy
2011-03-01  9:32                     ` Alexei Sholik
2011-03-01 17:02                       ` Drew Northup
2011-03-01 17:30                         ` Alexei Sholik
2011-03-01 17:41                           ` Drew Northup
2011-03-01  9:27                   ` Alexey Feldgendler
2011-03-01 16:46                     ` Drew Northup
2011-03-04 17:18                       ` Felipe Contreras
2011-03-05  4:53                         ` Miles Bader
2011-03-05  5:00                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-06 12:44                           ` Drew Northup
     [not found]               ` <878466.93199.1298934204331.JavaMail.trustmail@mail1.terreactive.ch>
2011-03-01  8:43                 ` Victor Engmark [this message]
2011-02-27 18:46           ` Phil Hord
2011-03-01 10:29 ` Jonathan Nieder

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