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From: Phil Hord <hordp@cisco.com>
To: Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
Cc: david@lang.hm, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
	anthonyvdgent@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Git commit generation numbers
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:47:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E27772B.60306@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJo=hJuS_iYSS8iVWoJ1BiUANsGtYJoYm-WRa863isVNsq=5vw@mail.gmail.com>


On 07/20/2011 08:37 PM, Shawn Pearce wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 17:18,<david@lang.hm>  wrote:
>> if it's just locally generated, then I could easily see generation numbers
>> being different on different people's ssstems, dependin on the order that
>> they see commits (either locally generated or pulled from others)
> But this should only happen if the user fudges with their Git sources
> and makes Git produce a different generation number.
>
> If the algorithm is always "gen(A) = max(gen(P) for each parent_of(A))
> + 1" then it doesn't matter who merged what commits, the same commit
> appears at the same part of the graph relative to all of its
> ancestors, and therefore always has the same generation number. This
> is true whether or not the commit contains the generation number.

Interesting.  I was going to disagree with the latter part of your 
statement, but then I realized you're right.

And that your algorithm allows duplicate generation numbers.

And that there's nothing wrong with that.

Because it meets the one quasi-essential need, "for each A in 
ancestors_of(B), gen(A) < gen(B)".

>> If it's part of the commit, then as that commit gets propogated the
>> generation number gets propogated as well, and every repository will agree
>> on what the generation number is for any commit that's shared.
> This isn't really as beneficial as you are making it out to be. We
> already can agree on what the generation number should be for any
> given commit, if you topo-sort the commit DAG, you get the same
> result.
>
>> I agree that this consistancy guarantee seems to be valuable.
> Its valuable, but its consistent either with a cache, or not.

I still fail to see the value.

Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-21  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-17 18:27 Git commit generation numbers George Spelvin
2011-07-17 19:00 ` Long, Martin
2011-07-17 19:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-17 23:39   ` George Spelvin
2011-07-17 23:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-18  5:13       ` George Spelvin
2011-07-18 10:28         ` Anthony Van de Gejuchte
2011-07-18 11:48           ` George Spelvin
2011-07-20 20:51             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-20 22:16               ` George Spelvin
2011-07-20 23:26                 ` david
2011-07-20 23:36                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-21  0:08                     ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21  0:18                       ` david
2011-07-21  0:37                         ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-21  0:47                           ` Phil Hord [this message]
2011-07-21  4:26                           ` david
2011-07-21 12:43                             ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 19:19                               ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-21 20:27                                 ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 20:33                                   ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-22 12:18                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-22 13:09                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-22 18:02                                       ` david
2011-07-22 18:34                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-22 19:06                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-22 22:02                                             ` Jeff King
2011-07-28 15:00                                             ` Felipe Contreras
2011-09-06 10:02                                               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2011-07-22 19:08                                           ` david
2011-07-22 19:40                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-22 18:02                                     ` david
2011-07-21  0:39                         ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21  0:58                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-21  1:09                         ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21 12:03                   ` Drew Northup
2011-07-21 12:55                     ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 15:57                       ` Drew Northup
2011-07-21 16:24                         ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21 22:40                           ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2011-07-22  9:30                             ` Christian Couder
2011-07-21 17:36                         ` George Spelvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-07-14 18:24 Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 18:37 ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 18:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 18:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 19:12       ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 19:46       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-14 19:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:07           ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 20:08           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-14 19:08     ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 19:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:01         ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 20:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:31             ` Jeff King
2011-07-15  1:19               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15  2:41                 ` Geert Bosch
2011-07-15  7:46                 ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 16:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 16:18                     ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-15 16:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 18:42                         ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-15 19:00                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-16  9:16                           ` Christian Couder
2011-07-18  3:41                             ` Jeff King
2011-07-19  4:14                               ` Christian Couder
2011-07-19 20:00                                 ` Jeff King
2011-07-21  6:29                                   ` Christian Couder
2011-07-15 18:46                         ` Tony Luck
2011-07-15 18:58                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 19:48                     ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 20:07                       ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 21:17                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 21:54                         ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 23:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 23:16                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 23:36                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-16  0:42                               ` Jeff King
2011-07-16  0:40                           ` Jeff King
2011-07-15  9:12                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-15  9:17                   ` Long, Martin
2011-07-15 15:33                     ` Long, Martin
2011-07-15 16:15                       ` Drew Northup
2011-07-14 18:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 19:08     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-14 20:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-07-14 20:41     ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 21:30       ` Junio C Hamano

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