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From: Phil Hord <hordp@cisco.com>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Cc: david@lang.hm, George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
	anthonyvdgent@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Git commit generation numbers
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:09:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E277C2E.2020402@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1107202041480.21187@xanadu.home>

On 07/20/2011 08:58 PM, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Phil Hord wrote:
>
>> On 07/20/2011 07:36 PM, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, david@lang.hm wrote:
>>>
>>>> If the generation number is part of the repository then it's going to
>>>> be the same for everyone.
>>> The actual generation number will be, and has to be, the same for
>>> everyone with the same repository content, regardless of the cache used.
>>> It is a well defined number with no room to interpretation.
>> Nonsense.
>>
>> Even if the generation number is well-defined and shared by all clients, the
>> only quasi-essential definition is "for each A in ancestors_of(B), gen(A)<
>> gen(B)".
> Sure.  But what do you gain by making holes in the sequence?

Depends on the algorithm.  Probably speed.  Possibly more efficient 
limited-cache building (jit-style discovery in reverse, as-needed, for 
example).

What do you gain by enforcing contiguousness?  Why not require all gen 
numbers to be even?  Or prime?  ;)

>> In practice, the actual generation number *will be the same* for everyone with
>> the same repository content, unless and until someone develops a different
>> calculation method.  But there is no reason to require that the number *has to
>> be* the same for everyone unless you expect (or require) everyone to share
>> their gen-caches.
> And with the above you clearly reinforced the argument _against_ storing
> the generation number in the commit object.  If you can imagine a
> different calculation method already, and if it is actually useful, then
> who knows if something even better could be done eventually.

Good.  Nice to see I'm being self-consistent, then.

Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-21  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-17 18:27 Git commit generation numbers George Spelvin
2011-07-17 19:00 ` Long, Martin
2011-07-17 19:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-17 23:39   ` George Spelvin
2011-07-17 23:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-18  5:13       ` George Spelvin
2011-07-18 10:28         ` Anthony Van de Gejuchte
2011-07-18 11:48           ` George Spelvin
2011-07-20 20:51             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-20 22:16               ` George Spelvin
2011-07-20 23:26                 ` david
2011-07-20 23:36                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-21  0:08                     ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21  0:18                       ` david
2011-07-21  0:37                         ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-21  0:47                           ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21  4:26                           ` david
2011-07-21 12:43                             ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 19:19                               ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-21 20:27                                 ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 20:33                                   ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-22 12:18                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-22 13:09                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-22 18:02                                       ` david
2011-07-22 18:34                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-22 19:06                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-22 22:02                                             ` Jeff King
2011-07-28 15:00                                             ` Felipe Contreras
2011-09-06 10:02                                               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2011-07-22 19:08                                           ` david
2011-07-22 19:40                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-22 18:02                                     ` david
2011-07-21  0:39                         ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21  0:58                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-21  1:09                         ` Phil Hord [this message]
2011-07-21 12:03                   ` Drew Northup
2011-07-21 12:55                     ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 15:57                       ` Drew Northup
2011-07-21 16:24                         ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21 22:40                           ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2011-07-22  9:30                             ` Christian Couder
2011-07-21 17:36                         ` George Spelvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-07-14 18:24 Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 18:37 ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 18:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 18:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 19:12       ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 19:46       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-14 19:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:07           ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 20:08           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-14 19:08     ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 19:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:01         ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 20:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:31             ` Jeff King
2011-07-15  1:19               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15  2:41                 ` Geert Bosch
2011-07-15  7:46                 ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 16:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 16:18                     ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-15 16:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 18:42                         ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-15 19:00                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-16  9:16                           ` Christian Couder
2011-07-18  3:41                             ` Jeff King
2011-07-19  4:14                               ` Christian Couder
2011-07-19 20:00                                 ` Jeff King
2011-07-21  6:29                                   ` Christian Couder
2011-07-15 18:46                         ` Tony Luck
2011-07-15 18:58                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 19:48                     ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 20:07                       ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 21:17                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 21:54                         ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 23:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 23:16                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 23:36                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-16  0:42                               ` Jeff King
2011-07-16  0:40                           ` Jeff King
2011-07-15  9:12                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-15  9:17                   ` Long, Martin
2011-07-15 15:33                     ` Long, Martin
2011-07-15 16:15                       ` Drew Northup
2011-07-14 18:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 19:08     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-14 20:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-07-14 20:41     ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 21:30       ` Junio C Hamano

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