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From: Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Naohiro Aota <naota@elisp.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, tarmigan+git@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] shell portability: Use sed instead of non-portable variable expansion
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:16:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E648546.8060303@viscovery.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v39gbxwi6.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Am 9/5/2011 9:45, schrieb Junio C Hamano:
> Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net> writes:
> 
>> Actually, it's the opposite: Within double-quotes, a backslash is only
>> removed when the next character has a special meaning (essentially $, `,
>> ", \), otherwise, it remains and loses its quoting ability. This means,
>> that the backslash would remain as a literal character in our patterns on
>> the right of % or #, and they would not work anymore as intended.
> 
> That's strange...
> 
> I thought that VAR=<any string without $IFS character in it> would behave
> identically to VAR="<the same string as above>". You seem to be saying
> that they should act differently.

They are not the same.

First of all, the value of $IFS is irrelevant whether or not you need
double-quotes on the RHS of an assignment, because it is purely a
syntactic matter; $IFS plays no role during syntax analysis. It is only
the presence of white-space that sometimes[*] requires quoting of some form.

The most visible difference is a backslash that is followed by a character
that is not special:

$ foo="a\xb" env | grep foo; foo=a\xb env | grep foo
foo=a\xb
foo=axb

But it is the same elsewhere in a command:

$ echo "a\xb"; echo a\xb
a\xb
axb

The reason is that a backslash inside double-quotes remains as a literal
character when it is not followed by a special character, whereas outside
double-quotes an unquoted backslash is always removed.

[*] No quoting is required in cases like this: VAR=$(echo foo)

>> [?] instead of \? is certainly also worth a try.
> 
> I obviously agree. Besides, [?] would sidestep the tricky backslash vs
> double quote issue entirely, so it would be a more robust solution to
> leave it around than "sometimes you need to avoid double-quote and some
> other times you would need double-quote" for other people to mimic writing
> tests later.

Good point, and I shall prefer this solution as well.

-- Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-05  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-05  5:11 [PATCH] shell portability: Use sed instead of non-portable variable expansion Naohiro Aota
2011-09-05  7:03 ` Johannes Sixt
2011-09-05  7:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-05  7:35     ` Johannes Sixt
2011-09-05  7:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-05  8:16         ` Johannes Sixt [this message]
2011-09-05  8:21           ` Johannes Sixt
2011-09-05  7:55   ` Naohiro Aota
2011-09-05  7:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-05  7:54   ` Johannes Sixt
2011-09-05  8:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-05  8:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-06 19:09   ` [PATCH] Makefile: abort on shells that do not support ${parameter%word} expansion Brandon Casey
2011-09-06 19:32     ` Brandon Casey
2011-09-06 20:30       ` Brandon Casey
2011-09-06 20:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-06 20:09       ` Brandon Casey
2011-09-06 20:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-06 20:20       ` Brandon Casey

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