zealous git convert determined to set up git server

zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[Joshua Stoutenburg]

Breaking away from previous conversation "Anybody home?"

2011/9/15 Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>:
> I think that either "Pro Git" book, or "The Git Community Book"
> would be a best source to learn about setting-up git server.
>
> I think the simplest solution for git hosting management would be to
> use gitolite (there are other git repository management software:
> Gitosis, SCM Manager, Gitblit).
>
> If you want to host something like GitHub, there are open source
> solutions too: Gitorious, InDefero, Girocco + gitweb,...
>
> HTH
> --
> Jakub Narębski
>
>

I totally didn't see "The Git Community Book".  There's no link for it
where I was looking: http://git-scm.com/documentation

As for setting up a work station, I found a pretty good guide at GitHub:
Windows: http://help.github.com/win-set-up-git/
Linux: http://help.github.com/linux-set-up-git/

Question 1: With both "Pro Git" and "The Git Community Book", has
anybody noticed any major discrepancies between the pdf and online
versions?  I'd like to place the pdf versions on my mobile device for
travel reading.

Question 2: It seems gitolite is the popular choice for git user
management.  Any reason why?

Question 3: So, Gitorious is more than just a repository hosting
website?  It's also an open source repository hosting platform, which
powers the Gitorious website?  That's pretty cool.

Re: zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[Luke Diamand]

On 15/09/11 12:38, Joshua Stoutenburg wrote:
> Breaking away from previous conversation "Anybody home?"
>
> I totally didn't see "The Git Community Book".  There's no link for it
> where I was looking: http://git-scm.com/documentation
>
> As for setting up a work station, I found a pretty good guide at GitHub:
> Windows: http://help.github.com/win-set-up-git/
> Linux: http://help.github.com/linux-set-up-git/
>
> Question 1: With both "Pro Git" and "The Git Community Book", has
> anybody noticed any major discrepancies between the pdf and online
> versions?  I'd like to place the pdf versions on my mobile device for
> travel reading.
>
> Question 2: It seems gitolite is the popular choice for git user
> management.  Any reason why?

I use it. Seems good to me:

- Very easy to install (might just be apt-get install gitolite)
- Git users don't need to have real user accounts on the server machine
- Can do quite sophisticated things with permissions


>
> Question 3: So, Gitorious is more than just a repository hosting
> website?  It's also an open source repository hosting platform, which
> powers the Gitorious website?  That's pretty cool.
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Re: zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[Sitaram Chamarty]

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Joshua Stoutenburg
<jehoshua02@gmail.com> wrote:

> Question 2: It seems gitolite is the popular choice for git user
> management.  Any reason why?

Well it *is* pretty darn powerful (I'm the author; allow me some
preening!) but I believe the real reason is that it is the most
*transparent* solution.

The other contendors *all* involve web-based setup/management, and
often include things like wikis, issue tracking, graphical views on
the web, commenting on commits, code review (in case of gerrit), etc.
etc.  Gitolite is the only system where the end user (developer) may
not even realise it's installed unless he runs up against an access
restriction.

Re: zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[Andreas Krey]

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:30:35 +0000, Sitaram Chamarty wrote:
...
> Well it *is* pretty darn powerful (I'm the author; allow me some
> preening!) but I believe the real reason is that it is the most
> *transparent* solution.

It well looks so, but I have a question: It seems that it assumes a
flat set of *.git repos. Unfortunately my current setup has the repos
in a hierarchy, like area/sub/repo.git, and I don't want everyone to
change their local repo configs. Is it possible to keep it like that
(and consequently have 'repo area/sub/repo' lines) when putting it
under gitolite control?

Andreas

Re: zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[Ilari Liusvaara]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:40:32PM +0200, Andreas Krey wrote:
> 
> It well looks so, but I have a question: It seems that it assumes a
> flat set of *.git repos. Unfortunately my current setup has the repos
> in a hierarchy, like area/sub/repo.git, and I don't want everyone to
> change their local repo configs. Is it possible to keep it like that
> (and consequently have 'repo area/sub/repo' lines) when putting it
> under gitolite control?

It is possible to have '/' in repository name in Gitolite. Heck,
most repos I have in Gitolite have '/' in their names...

-Ilari

Re: zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[Sitaram Chamarty]

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Andreas Krey <a.krey@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:30:35 +0000, Sitaram Chamarty wrote:
> ...
>> Well it *is* pretty darn powerful (I'm the author; allow me some
>> preening!) but I believe the real reason is that it is the most
>> *transparent* solution.
>
> It well looks so, but I have a question: It seems that it assumes a
> flat set of *.git repos. Unfortunately my current setup has the repos

No.  Perhaps I should state that explicitly somewhere though...

Re: zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[Jakub Narebski]

Joshua Stoutenburg wrote:
> 2011/9/15 Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>:

> > I think that either "Pro Git" book, or "The Git Community Book"
> > would be a best source to learn about setting-up git server.
> >
> > I think the simplest solution for git hosting management would be to
> > use gitolite (there are other git repository management software:
> > Gitosis, SCM Manager, Gitblit).
> >
> > If you want to host something like GitHub, there are open source
> > solutions too: Gitorious, InDefero, Girocco + gitweb,...
> >
> > HTH
> > --
> > Jakub Narębski
> >
> >
> 
> I totally didn't see "The Git Community Book".  There's no link for it
> where I was looking: http://git-scm.com/documentation

I think that link to "Git Community Book" (http://book.git-scm.com) on Git
Documentation page (http://git-scm.com/documentation) got replaced by the
link to "Pro Git" book; I guess becaue the former is not finished and it
doesn't look like it would be finished soon.

[...]
> Question 2: It seems gitolite is the popular choice for git user
> management.  Any reason why?

From Gitosis and Gitolite, both git repository management tools, Gitosis
requires setuptools beside Python, and looks like it is not developed
anymore, while Gitolite (which started as rewrite of Gitosis in Perl)
requires only Perl and is actively developed.

Nb. even Gitosis author recommends Gitolite:
http://scie.nti.st/2007/11/14/hosting-git-repositories-the-easy-and-secure-way

  Update (12-12-2010): For additional features not present in gitosis,
  check out gitolite.
 
> Question 3: So, Gitorious is more than just a repository hosting
> website?  It's also an open source repository hosting platform, which
> powers the Gitorious website?  That's pretty cool.

Yes, GitHub:FI (this one proprietary), Gitorious (powering gitorious.org),
InDefero, Gitblit and Girocco + gitweb (the last one powering http://repo.or.cz)
are all full-fledged git hosting sites, with web interface to view and
manage repositories.

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Re: zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[Sitaram Chamarty]

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Joshua Stoutenburg wrote:
>> 2011/9/15 Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>:

>> Question 2: It seems gitolite is the popular choice for git user
>> management.  Any reason why?
>
> From Gitosis and Gitolite, both git repository management tools, Gitosis
> requires setuptools beside Python, and looks like it is not developed
> anymore, while Gitolite (which started as rewrite of Gitosis in Perl)
> requires only Perl and is actively developed.
>
> Nb. even Gitosis author recommends Gitolite:
> http://scie.nti.st/2007/11/14/hosting-git-repositories-the-easy-and-secure-way
>
>  Update (12-12-2010): For additional features not present in gitosis,
>  check out gitolite.

Minor correction.  That blog is someone else's (a friend of the
gitosis author).  I asked him to add that text because we constantly
had (still have) people land up on #git asking for help but neither he
nor the author are active in git-land anymore and won't answer
questions and no one else was willing to pick up the slack.

Fortunately he agreed, and was gracious enough to put that in,
although I would have preferred wording that includes the word
"unsupported" (IMO lack of support is a bigger reason than lack of
features).

Re: zealous git convert determined to set up git server

[fREW Schmidt]

> Question 2: It seems gitolite is the popular choice for git user
> management.  Any reason why?

Another thing that I personally LOVE as the "Version Control Czar" at
my company is the fact that users can easily get a list of repo's that
they have access to using gitolite.  Instead of people asking me all
the time "what's the name of the Foo repo?" they can just do `ssh
cesium info` and get a list of repos.

It's a small feature but it really is super handy.

--
fREW Schmidt
http://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com