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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [git patches] libata updates, GPG signed (but see admin notes)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:42:57 -0700
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> 
> The main worry is Linus ($human_who_pulls) gets
> cryptographically-verified data at the time he pulls.  Once Linus
> republishes his tree (git push), there will be few, if any, wanting to
> verify Jeff Garzik's signature.
> 
> So no, I don't see that as a _driving_ need in the kernel's case.
> 
> And IMO the kernel will be a mix of signed and unsigned content for a
> while, possibly forever.
> 

I think the desire is to be able to deconstruct things if things were to
go wrong.

	-hpa

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H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
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