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From: Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Alex Riesen" <raa.lkml@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i18n: disable i18n for shell scripts if NO_GETTEXT defined
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:13:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F17C294.6010004@viscovery.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vfwfclf4v.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Am 1/19/2012 1:17, schrieb Junio C Hamano:
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 19:57, Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>> Well, if I say NO_GETTEXT, I kind of want none of local gettext,
>>> whether it works, or not.
>>
>> That's not what NO_GETTEXT means, and not what it *should* mean. It
>> means that your output won't be translated, but we might still make
>> use of a locally installed library to provide the gettext() and
>> eval_gettext() functions.
> 
> You are right.

Sorry to disagree: We have, e.g., NO_MMAP, and I can set it to request
that some alternative is used, even if I have a working mmap(). The option
name "NO_GETTEXT" is in exactly the same spirit.

> In the current approach we take for shell scripts, we cannot have "No i18n
> whatsoever and messages are emit with printf and echo". We always have to
> go through gettext/eval_gettext even though they may be an implementation
> that does not do i18n at all.

Just like we go through _() in C code, even though there may be an
implementation that does not do i18n at all, right?

gettext/eval_gettext annotations are the shell equivalent of _()
annotations in C code, aren't they? Neither go away just by defining
NO_GETTEXT. It is just a quality-of-implementation issue that those
annotations have as little overhead as possible if NO_GETTEXT is defined.
In C, it is easy, in shell code it may be more involved.

-- Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-19  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-17 13:42 [PATCH] i18n: disable i18n for shell scripts if NO_GETTEXT defined Alex Riesen
2012-01-17 19:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-18 14:25   ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-18 19:54   ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-19  0:12     ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-19  9:15       ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-18 15:22 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-01-18 18:57   ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-18 23:18     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-01-19  0:15       ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-19  0:17       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-19  7:13         ` Johannes Sixt [this message]
2012-01-19 18:30           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-20  9:50             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-01-20 10:40               ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-20 12:49                 ` [PATCH] git-sh-i18n: detect and avoid broken gettext(1) implementation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-01-20 14:02                   ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-20 20:00                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-20 20:13                     ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-20 20:21                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-20 20:24                         ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-20 20:26                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-20 20:33                             ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-20 19:35                 ` [PATCH] i18n: disable i18n for shell scripts if NO_GETTEXT defined Junio C Hamano
2012-01-20 19:45                   ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-19  9:24         ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-19  9:13       ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-19 19:52         ` [PATCH] add a Makefile switch to avoid gettext translation in shell scripts Alex Riesen
2012-01-23 22:01           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-23 22:02             ` [PATCH 1/2] git-sh-i18n: restructure the logic to compute gettext.sh scheme Junio C Hamano
2012-01-23 22:04               ` [PATCH 2/2] add a Makefile switch to avoid gettext translation in shell scripts Junio C Hamano
2012-01-23 22:12                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-23 22:23                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-23 22:40                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-24  0:31                     ` [PATCH/RFC 3/2] i18n: do not use gettext.sh by default when NO_GETTEXT is set Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-24 20:06                       ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-24  0:39                   ` [PATCH 2/2] add a Makefile switch to avoid gettext translation in shell scripts Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-01-24 19:59                   ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-24 20:00                 ` Alex Riesen
2012-01-24 20:13                   ` Junio C Hamano

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