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From: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Tom Grennan <tmgrennan@gmail.com>,
	pclouds@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org, krh@redhat.com,
	jasampler@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] tag: make list exclude !<pattern>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:50:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F361DD4.9020108@alum.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vaa4qnk4u.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On 02/11/2012 04:06 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Tom Grennan <tmgrennan@gmail.com> writes:
>> The following series implements !<pattern> with: git-tag, git-branch, and
>> git-for-each-ref.
>>
>> This still requires Documentation and unit test updates but I think these are
>> close to functionally complete.
>
> Do we allow a refname whose pathname component begins with '!', by the
> way?  If we do, how does a user look for a tag whose name is "!xyzzy"?
> "Naming your tag !xyzzy used to be allowed but it is now forbidden after
> this patch" is not an acceptable answer---it is called a regression.  If
> the negation operator were "^" or something that we explicitly forbid from
> a refname, we wouldn't have such a problem.

According to git-check-ref-format(1), '!' are allowed in reference
names.  (Whether that was a good idea is another question, but now we
have to support it.)

So using "^" would be an option.  A problem is that the new meaning is
not consistent with the use of "^" in rev-list, and therefore would (1)
be confusing and (2) prevent the addition of a similar syntax in rev-list.

Currently,

    git rev-list A B ^C

means "revisions reachable from A or B but not from C".  (For simplicity
assume that A, B, and C are literal reference names without wildcards.)
 The proposal, amended to use "^" instead of "!", is that

    git for-each-ref A B ^C

should mean "the reference names A and B but not C".  Therefore, the command

    git rev-list $(git for-each-ref A B ^C)

, which consistency suggests should do the same thing as the first
command, would in fact be equivalent to

    git rev-list A B

Moreover, it *would* be nice to have this kind of exclude-branch-name
syntax in rev-parse.  Many times I have wanted to type the equivalent of

    gitk --all --not-branch=remotes/korg/*

That is, "show the commits starting at *all branches except for the
specified branches*".  This is different than "show *the commits
starting at all branches* except for *the commits reachable from the
specified branches*", because I want to see the *complete* history of
the non-excluded branches.  (Is there an easy way to do this now?)  The
proposed functionality is a step forward; I could type

    gitk $(git for-each-ref !remotes/korg/*)

But it would be even nicer if this could be expressed directly in rev-parse.

In summary, I suggest we consider using a more verbose syntax for this
new functionality (probably via one or more new options, for example
--not-branch=PATTERN, --not-tag=PATTERN, and/or --not-ref=PATTERN) that
cannot be confused with the existing syntax for excluding commits.

Michael

-- 
Michael Haggerty
mhagger@alum.mit.edu
http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-11  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-09 19:43 [RFC/PATCH] tag: make list exclude !<pattern> Tom Grennan
2012-02-09 19:43 ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-10  0:00   ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-10  6:34 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-02-10 18:55   ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  3:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11  7:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11 10:13           ` Jakub Narebski
2012-02-11 14:06             ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-02-11 18:31             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11 19:47           ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  7:50         ` Michael Haggerty [this message]
2012-02-11  8:13           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-13  5:29             ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-13  6:37               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-13  9:37                 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-13 10:23                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-13 14:34                     ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-13 20:29                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11 19:08         ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 0/5] " Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 1/5] refs: add match_pattern() Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  6:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-22 23:47               ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-23  0:17                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-23  0:59                   ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 2/5] tag --points-at option wrapper Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 3/5] tag --exclude option Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  6:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-23  0:22               ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-23  1:00                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 0/5] modernize test style Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  8:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-03 17:42                       ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 1/5] t7004 (tag): modernize style Tom Grennan
2012-03-03 21:31                     ` Johannes Sixt
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 2/5] t5512 (ls-remote): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  8:05                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-03 17:33                       ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 3/5] t3200 (branch): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 4/5] t0040 (parse-options): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 5/5] t6300 (for-each-ref): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 101/105] t7004 (tag): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 102/105] t5512 (ls-remote): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 103/105] t3200 (branch): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 104/105] t0040 (parse-options): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 105/105] t6300 (for-each-ref): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 1/5] " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  6:53                   ` Johannes Sixt
2012-03-01 15:58                     ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 2/5] t5512 (ls-remote): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  8:36                   ` Thomas Rast
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 3/5] t3200 (branch): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 4/5] t0040 (parse-options): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 5/5] t7004 (tag): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 101/105] t6300 (for-each-ref): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  2:13                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01  3:20                     ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  3:26                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01  5:10                         ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  5:57                           ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  8:42                           ` Thomas Rast
2012-03-01 15:48                             ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 102/105] t5512 (ls-remote): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 103/105] t3200 (branch): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 104/105] t0040 (parse-options): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 105/105] t7004 (tag): " Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 4/5] branch --exclude option Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 5/5] for-each-ref " Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` [PATCHv2 1/4] refs: add common refname_match_patterns() Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  7:12       ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-11 19:17         ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-13  5:00           ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-13 17:27             ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  8:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11 19:37         ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11 23:43           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-13 16:29             ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` [PATCHv2 2/4] tag: use refs.c:refname_match_patterns() Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` [PATCHv2 3/4] branch: " Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` [PATCHv2 4/4] for-each-ref: " Tom Grennan

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