From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIFdhbGtlcg==?= Subject: Re: Git and Google Summer of Code 2012 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:01:08 -0300 Message-ID: <4F68C5E4.3050306@andrewalker.net> References: <001636c5c21b02c35904bba0ff9a@google.com> <201203201637.10417.jnareb@gmail.com> <7v62dz6v5c.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <201203201844.55155.jnareb@gmail.com> <20120320175422.GA20669@sigill.intra.peff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jakub Narebski , Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, "Shawn O. Pearce" To: Jeff King X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Mar 20 19:01:45 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SA3NM-0007VN-8l for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:01:40 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753528Ab2CTSBf (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:01:35 -0400 Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com ([67.222.38.55]:35117 "HELO oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1752597Ab2CTSBe (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:01:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 31717 invoked by uid 0); 20 Mar 2012 18:01:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host245.hostmonster.com) (74.220.215.245) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2012 18:01:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=andrewalker.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=0yl1Lmm5ARuP2mFHdxr7x9r8rbr3JsplhkmpMtmD+/s=; b=nCCUwwEIEosttK/Eo8vTGwrKxYWbIhTJbl++RANsOv1ql/wbyoz/ol1DSXgo1Kgj03PM5Hc2eKeZOvh9Va93NjBMf8ymAZ9DY2zE3paYy2xjqU+JHhSPDPy9zPG2sDb0; Received: from tor12.anonymizer.ccc.de ([62.113.219.5] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by host245.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SA3ND-0003If-Q6; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:01:32 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0.1 In-Reply-To: <20120320175422.GA20669@sigill.intra.peff.net> X-Identified-User: {2744:host245.hostmonster.com:picloadc:andrewalker.net} {sentby:smtp auth 62.113.219.5 authed with andre@andrewalker.net} Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Well, one way or another, I do want to subscribe. I tried to do it though, but somehow I'm still not subscribed. I mailed majordomo@vger.kernel.org with the message body "subscribe git". I did it twice, yesterday, and today again. Am I doing something wrong, or should I just wait? On 03/20/2012 02:54 PM, Jeff King wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 06:44:54PM +0100, Jakub Narebski wrote: > >>>> Actually the discussion of GSoC project application ideas with mentoring >>>> organization[1] should take place in the open, on git mailing list, >>>> git@vger.kernel.org. (You don't need to be subscribed to send email to >>>> it, and there is custom on this mailing list of Cc-ing all people >>>> participating in discussion; you can read git mailing list via other >>>> interfaces e.g. via GMane.) >>> The parenthesized part applies to general audience but not to GSoC >>> students, I would think. Isn't the participation in the mentoring >>> community mandatory for them? >> Perhaps being subscribed to git mailing list, and participating in >> #git or #git-devel IRC channel (and perhaps also #gsoc channel) is >> mandatory for GSoC students (though I think if it is so it should >> be stated clearly in materials such as SoC-2012-Template application >> template)... >> >> ...but is it required also for _prospective_ (would-be) students? > I would hesitate to ever call anything _mandatory_. A student who is > aware of how the git community works, is up-to-date with recent > discussions on the proposed area of work, and who has interacted with > the developer community will have a much stronger application and be > more likely to succeed in their project. > > Given that the mailing list is the center of the development community, > I would expect reading at least some of it to be part of the above > tasks. But whether they want to subscribe, read via nntp, read via list > archives on gmane, or whatever, is up to the student. And I certainly > wouldn't expect them to read every message; instead, they should read > parts that interest them and seem applicable to their proposed work. > Because there is a lot of traffic on the list, it often helps to cull > uninteresting bits by their subject, or whole threads after reading the > first message of a thread and deciding it's boring. > > -Peff >