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From: Andrew Sayers <andrew-git@pileofstuff.org>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:41:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F6915A8.9040009@pileofstuff.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vhaxi50q8.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On 20/03/12 23:09, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Andrew Sayers <andrew-git@pileofstuff.org> writes:
> 
>> I assume the reason for removing the warning altogether is that some day
>> the signal:noise ratio will just get too bad.
> 
> The reasoning is a lot simpler than that.
> 
> If the end game is not remove the warning, then we would be switching to a
> new default that is "give loud warning until the user configures her own
> default, but push upstream/current anyway" mode.  We do not want such a
> stupid mode as the default---we want the default to be either upstream or
> current at the end, when nobody remembers what the ancient default was.
> 
> The "warn loud but do it anyway" is a very good interim step during the
> migration, but is never a good default.  If we are going to stop there,
> "give loud warning until the user chooses and configures the default, and
> push nothing" mode would be a LOT safer and saner default, as it would
> really force people to configure the default.  Obviously we do not want to
> go there, so...
> 

It sounds like we're disagreeing, but I can't tell what about.  I agree
that "warn loud but do it anyway" is a bad default in the long term.  I
propose implementing the behaviour you want by adding a push.default
setting to the .git/config file for all new repositories, so that users
with a longer-than-expected short term still get the warning.  That
should warn 99% of the people who need it without bothering anyone that
doesn't.  What am I missing?

	- Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-20 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-17  5:10 Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17  5:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17 10:05   ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-18 18:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-18 21:26       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-03-19  0:29         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-19  7:29           ` Sebastien Douche
2012-03-19 20:11       ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-19 21:43         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-19 22:20           ` demerphq
2012-03-19 22:38             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 10:00               ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-03-19 22:47           ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-19 22:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 21:20               ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-20 23:09                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 23:41                   ` Andrew Sayers [this message]
2012-03-21  0:25                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 14:12   ` Martin Langhoff
2012-03-20 15:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 18:31       ` Martin Langhoff
2012-03-20 16:43     ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-21 17:54   ` Summary of discussion on "git push" default change Junio C Hamano
2012-03-21 18:05     ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-17 14:00 ` Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Joey Hess
2012-03-19  0:36   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17 18:43 ` fREW Schmidt
2012-03-18  4:02   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-18  5:43     ` Marcus D. Hanwell
2012-03-18 16:52   ` Sebastian Schuberth
2012-03-19  9:07 ` Peter Krefting
2012-03-19  9:35   ` Letting remote repositories override local configuration Jonathan Nieder
2012-03-19 12:21     ` Peter Krefting
2012-03-19 18:57 ` Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Kevin Ballard
2012-03-20  2:27 ` Antony Male
2012-03-20 12:04   ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-20 13:04     ` Antony Male
2012-03-20  7:13 ` Nathan Gray
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:01   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:36 ` Filipe Fernandes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-03-19 18:26 Michael K. Johnson

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