From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andrew Sayers Subject: Re: Newbie grief Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 20:18:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4FA42B7C.4010202@pileofstuff.org> References: <4F9F128C.5020304@palm.com> <201204302331.q3UNVo7o032303@no.baka.org> <4F9F28F5.2020403@palm.com> <201205010137.q411bxaU002449@no.baka.org> <4F9F52B9.9060508@palm.com> <08704bd2e32343a4b9def80e4fa1efa2-mfwitten@gmail.com> <4FA2D8EA.7030809@palm.com> <87obq5ggpu.fsf@an-dro.info.enstb.org> <7vehr1dl2z.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <4FA307C5.102@palm.com> <4FA3090D.5080406@palm.com> <4FA32A6A.4070007@blizzard.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Illia Bobyr , Rich Pixley , Ronan Keryell , "git@vger.kernel.org" To: Nathan Gray X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri May 04 21:18:32 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SQO1N-0006wR-Sw for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2012 21:18:30 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759390Ab2EDTSZ (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 May 2012 15:18:25 -0400 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]:57237 "EHLO mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754097Ab2EDTSY (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 May 2012 15:18:24 -0400 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20120504191823.KJTT10903.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Fri, 4 May 2012 20:18:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (really [94.170.150.126]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20120504191823.TUHB13318.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.3]>; Fri, 4 May 2012 20:18:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/3.1.20 In-Reply-To: X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JvdXmxIgLJv2/GthKqHpGJEEHukvLcvELVXUanXFreg= c=1 sm=0 a=yXtjXN6ItgYA:10 a=u4BGzq-dJbcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Fpnz726e6VfeEiT13WsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 04/05/12 04:13, Nathan Gray wrote: > I just led a team of reasonably bright people through a transition > from SVN to git. Not one of them understood this message. Every one > of them thought something was broken. This is a very common > occurrence, so a short, simple message without jargon for this error > would be a big, big win. Now you come to mention it, I had the same experience a while back. The message could certainly do with improvement, but I think this particular case is more a side-effect of the push.default issue currently being worked through. Beginners expect `git push` to push a single branch, so they see "error" and assume the single branch they pushed must have failed. - Andrew