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From: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Martin von Zweigbergk <martin.von.zweigbergk@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch>,
	Alexey Muranov <alexey.muranov@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Reflogs for deleted refs: fix breakage and suggest namespace change
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:19:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5030E7D6.8020206@alum.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vboi8rl2q.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On 08/18/2012 10:39 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> mhagger@alum.mit.edu writes:
> 
>> Given that a flag day would anyway be required to add a d/f-tolerant
>> system, I could live with a separate "graveyard" namespace as
>> originally proposed by Jeff.
>>
>> However, I still think that as long as we are making a jump, we could
>> try to land closer to the ultimate destination.
> 
> Do we _know_ already what the "ultimate destination" looks like?  

No; we can only guess.  I just wanted to submit some code so that the
existence/absence of code would not prejudice the decision.

> If the answer is yes, then I agree, but otherwise, I doubt it is a
> good idea to introduce unnecessary complexity to the system that may
> have to be ripped out and redone.
> 
> I didn't get the impression that we know the "ultimate destination"
> from the previous discussion, especially if we discount the tangent
> around "having next and next/foo at the same time" which was on
> nobody's wish, but I may be misremembering things.

It's been a wish of mine, but it's pretty low priority.  I've also
brainstormed about some other changes that could be connected with a new
repo format:

* Allow "deleted" loose references (for example denoted by value 0{40})
that override packed references with the same name.  This would remove
the need to rewrite the packed-refs file when a reference is deleted.
(A prerequisite for this change would be to allow next and next/foo at
the same time.)

* Push HEAD and its friends down out of $GIT_DIR into a
reference-specific directory.

* Rename lock files to look less like reference names (e.g., something
like "refs/foo~lock" instead of "refs/foo.lock").

* Somehow munge reference names in a way to avoid other filesystem
limitations -- e.g., case insensitivity, filenames like "com" and "prn"
or with multiple dots under Windows.

* ...or maybe a packed-refs file that can (usually) be updated in-place,
and get rid of loose references entirely.

Michael

-- 
Michael Haggerty
mhagger@alum.mit.edu
http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-19 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-19  7:30 Feature request: fetch --prune by default Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 11:55 ` Jeff King
2012-07-19 14:03   ` Dan Johnson
2012-07-19 15:11     ` Stefan Haller
2012-08-16 23:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-21  6:51       ` Jeff King
2013-06-20 19:22     ` Sam Roberts
2012-07-19 16:21   ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 17:34     ` Konstantin Khomoutov
2012-07-19 21:20       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 21:57         ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-20  7:11         ` Johannes Sixt
2012-07-20  7:28           ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-16 23:27             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-19 16:40   ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 16:48     ` Dan Johnson
2012-07-19 16:51       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 21:32   ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] reflog graveyard Jeff King
2012-07-19 21:33     ` [PATCH 1/3] retain reflogs for deleted refs Jeff King
2012-07-19 22:23       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-20 14:26         ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 14:32           ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 22:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20 14:43         ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 15:07           ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 15:39             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20 15:42           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20 15:50             ` Jeff King
2012-08-16 23:29         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20  9:49       ` Michael Haggerty
2012-07-20 15:44         ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 16:37           ` Johannes Sixt
2012-07-20 17:09             ` Jeff King
2012-07-22 11:03               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-26 12:47               ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-07-26 16:26                 ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-26 16:41                   ` Matthieu Moy
2012-07-26 16:59                     ` Jeff King
2012-07-26 17:24                       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-26 17:46               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-26 17:52                 ` Jeff King
2012-07-22 11:10           ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-22 11:12             ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-22 13:14             ` Jeff King
2012-07-22 14:40               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-22 15:50                 ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 16:32         ` Johannes Sixt
2012-08-18 17:14       ` [RFC 0/3] Reflogs for deleted refs: fix breakage and suggest namespace change mhagger
2012-08-18 17:14         ` [RFC 1/3] t9300: format test in modern style prior to modifying it mhagger
2012-08-18 17:14         ` [RFC 2/3] Delete reflogs for dead references to allow pruning mhagger
2012-08-21  8:33           ` Jeff King
2012-08-18 17:14         ` [RFC 3/3] Change naming convention for the reflog graveyard mhagger
2012-08-18 20:39         ` [RFC 0/3] Reflogs for deleted refs: fix breakage and suggest namespace change Junio C Hamano
2012-08-18 21:11           ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19  0:02             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-19  7:07               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19  7:15               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19 11:28               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19 17:38                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-19 22:09                   ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-20  0:26                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-20  1:01                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-20 11:32                       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-20 11:57                         ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19 13:19           ` Michael Haggerty [this message]
2012-08-19 16:27             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-21  8:27           ` Jeff King
2012-08-21 17:56             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-19 21:33     ` [PATCH 2/3] teach sha1_name to look in graveyard reflogs Jeff King
2012-07-19 22:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20 15:53         ` Jeff King
2012-07-22 20:53           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-19 21:33     ` [PATCH 3/3] add tests for reflogs of deleted refs Jeff King

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