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From: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Python extension commands in git - request for policy change
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:05:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B34D08.8000208@op5.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121125224443.GC6937@thyrsus.com>

On 11/25/2012 11:44 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>:
>> According to the results of the last survey, our users do care about
>> performance, so I don't think there's anything excessive about it. Are
>> there any hidden costs in maintenance problems? I don't think so.
> 
> Then you're either pretending or very naive. Three decades of
> experience as a C programmer tells me that C code at any volume is a
> *serious* maintainance problem relative to almost any language with
> GC.  Prudent architects confine it is much as possible.
> 

Prudent architects also avoid rewrites as much as possible, since it's
inevitable that bugs will be introduced that have been fixed in the
"official" version.

Personally, I think if you'd left your suggestion on "It would be great
to have guidelines for python scripts. I propose 2.6 as the minimum
required python verison" and left it at that, there would have been
very little disagreement. The suggestion that things should be rewritten
in python for some spurious long-term savings seems mostly designed to
refuel everyone's favourite flamethrower, and you know as well as I do
that it just won't happen unless there's at least a chance of some
substantial technical benefits from doing so.

-- 
Andreas Ericsson                   andreas.ericsson@op5.se
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on peace.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-26 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-25  2:44 Python extension commands in git - request for policy change Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25  3:15 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-11-25  5:18   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25  8:56     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25  9:54       ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:48         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:50           ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:22             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 21:56               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 13:11                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27  7:54                   ` David Aguilar
2012-11-27  8:43                     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27  9:17                     ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-27 10:51                       ` David Aguilar
2012-11-27 22:01                         ` Guillaume DE BURE
2012-11-27 15:33                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-28  2:09                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:21     ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-25 10:26   ` Pat Thoyts
2012-11-25 10:33     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 15:51       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2012-11-25  8:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25  9:53   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:19     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:32       ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:43         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 22:44           ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 11:05             ` Andreas Ericsson [this message]
2012-11-25 10:44   ` Michael Haggerty
2012-11-25 10:57     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:51       ` David Lang
2012-11-25 12:01         ` Stefano Lattarini
2012-11-25 17:44         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:25     ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-12-11  5:44       ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12  0:09         ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-12-12  0:28           ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12  0:53           ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-12-12  1:50             ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-12-12  2:22               ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-12-12  2:26               ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12  5:15                 ` Joshua Jensen
2012-12-12  3:30           ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12  5:11             ` Joshua Jensen
2012-12-12 12:23               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12  6:32             ` Jeff King
2012-12-12  7:03               ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12  8:32                 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 12:26               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12 12:29                 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 17:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:21                 ` Andrew Ardill
2012-12-12 22:43                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12  7:11             ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 12:43               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-19  2:30                 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-11-25 11:40     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:36       ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:25         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 22:11           ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 13:17             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27 14:35       ` Magnus Bäck
2012-11-27 18:35         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-27 21:08           ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-28  0:16           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-12-03 21:45             ` Philippe Vaucher
2012-12-04 14:19               ` Felipe Contreras
2012-12-04 14:40                 ` Stephen Bash
2012-11-28  0:10         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28  0:51           ` Jeff King
2012-11-28  1:22             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28  1:39               ` Jeff King
2012-11-28  2:06                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28 15:39           ` Magnus Bäck
2012-11-28  5:08     ` Joshua Jensen
2012-11-25  8:57 ` Johannes Sixt
2012-11-25 10:25   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:41 ` Krzysztof Mazur
2012-11-25 22:47   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26  5:10     ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-26  8:32       ` Krzysztof Mazur
2012-12-04 15:51 ` Martin Langhoff

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