From: "Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>,
"Duy Nguyen" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
"Ramkumar Ramachandra" <artagnon@gmail.com>,
"Robert Zeh" <robert.allan.zeh@gmail.com>,
"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
finnag@pvv.org
Subject: Re: inotify to minimize stat() calls
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:24:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5139AE30.6010200@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v7glijoiy.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
On 08.03.13 09:15, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Torsten Bögershausen <tboegi@web.de> writes:
>
>>> Doesn't this make one wonder why a separate bit and implementation
>>> is necessary to say "I am not interested in untracked files" when
>>> "-uno" option is already there?
>> ...
>> I need to admit that I wasn't aware about "git status -uno".
>
> Not so fast. I did not ask you "Why do you need a new one to solve
> the same problem -uno already solves?"
>
>> Thinking about it, how many git users are aware of the speed penalty
>> when running git status to find out which (tracked) files they had changed?
>>
>> Or to put it the other way, when a developer wants a quick overview
>> about the files she changed, then git status -uno may be a good and fast friend.
>>
>> Does it make sence to stress put that someway in the documentation?
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/git-status.txt b/Documentation/git-status.txt
>> index 9f1ef9a..360d813 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/git-status.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/git-status.txt
>> @@ -51,13 +51,18 @@ default is 'normal', i.e. show untracked files and directori
>> +
>> The possible options are:
>> +
>> - - 'no' - Show no untracked files
>> + - 'no' - Show no untracked files (this is fastest)
>
> There is a trade-off around the use of -uno between safety and
> performance. The default is not to use -uno so that you will not
> forget to add a file you newly created (i.e safety). You would pay
> for the safety with the cost to find such untracked files (i.e.
> performance).
>
> I suspect that the documentation was written with the assumption
> that at least for the people who are reading this part of the
> documentation, the trade-off is obvious. In order to find more
> information, you naturally need to spend more cycles.
>
> If the trade-off is not so obvious, however, I do not object at all
> to describing it. But if we are to do so, I do object to mentioning
> only one side of the trade-off. People who choose "fastest" needs
> to be made very aware that they are disabling "safety".
>
> That brings us back to the "Why a separate implementation when -uno
> is there?" question.
[...]
The short version:
The -uno option does exactly what the -c option intended to do ;-)
(The code path to disable the "expensive" call to read_directory_recursive()
in dir.c is slightly different).
Making benchmarks (again, sorry for the noise) shows that -uno and -c are equally fast,
making 5 git status on a linux tree, take the best of 5:
git status
real 0m0.697s
git status -uno
real 0m0.291s
(with the patch) git status -c
real 0m0.289s
These are not really scientific numbers, but all in all we have motivation enough to drop
the "git status -c" patch completely.
My feeling is still that the suggested documentation "this is fastest" is not a good choice either.
Let me try to come up with a better suggestion.
/Torsten
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Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-08 21:10 inotify to minimize stat() calls Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-08 22:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-08 22:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-09 2:10 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-09 2:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-09 2:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-09 3:36 ` Robert Zeh
2013-02-09 12:05 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-09 12:11 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-09 12:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-09 12:59 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-09 17:10 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-09 18:56 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-10 5:24 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-10 11:17 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-10 11:22 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-10 20:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-11 2:56 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-11 11:12 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-03-07 22:16 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2013-03-08 0:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-08 7:01 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2013-03-08 8:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-08 9:24 ` Torsten Bögershausen [this message]
2013-03-08 10:53 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-03-10 8:23 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-03-13 12:59 ` [PATCH] status: hint the user about -uno if read_directory takes too long Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2013-03-13 15:21 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2013-03-13 16:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-14 10:22 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-03-14 15:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-15 12:30 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-03-15 15:52 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2013-03-15 15:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-03-15 16:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-15 17:41 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2013-03-15 20:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-15 21:14 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2013-03-15 21:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-16 7:21 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2013-03-17 4:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-16 1:51 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-10 13:26 ` inotify to minimize stat() calls demerphq
2013-02-10 15:35 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-14 14:36 ` Magnus Bäck
2013-02-10 16:45 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-11 3:03 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-10 16:58 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-02-11 3:53 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-12 20:48 ` Karsten Blees
2013-02-13 10:06 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-13 12:15 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-13 18:18 ` Jeff King
2013-02-13 19:47 ` Jeff King
2013-02-13 20:25 ` Karsten Blees
2013-02-13 22:55 ` Jeff King
2013-02-14 0:48 ` Karsten Blees
2013-02-27 14:45 ` [PATCH] name-hash.c: fix endless loop with core.ignorecase=true Karsten Blees
2013-02-27 16:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-27 21:52 ` Karsten Blees
2013-02-27 23:57 ` [PATCH v2] " Karsten Blees
2013-02-28 0:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-19 9:49 ` inotify to minimize stat() calls Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-19 14:25 ` Karsten Blees
2013-02-19 13:16 ` Drew Northup
2013-02-19 13:47 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-09 19:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-10 19:03 ` Robert Zeh
2013-02-10 19:26 ` Martin Fick
2013-02-10 20:18 ` Robert Zeh
2013-02-11 3:21 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-11 14:13 ` Robert Zeh
2013-02-19 9:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-24 17:20 ` [PATCH] " Robert Zeh
2013-04-24 21:32 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-25 19:44 ` Robert Zeh
2013-04-25 21:20 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-26 15:35 ` Robert Zeh
2013-04-25 8:18 ` Thomas Rast
2013-04-25 19:37 ` Robert Zeh
2013-04-25 19:59 ` Thomas Rast
2013-04-27 13:51 ` Thomas Rast
2013-04-27 23:56 ` Duy Nguyen
[not found] ` <CAKXa9=r2A7UeBV2s2H3wVGdPkS1zZ9huNJhtvTC-p0S5Ed12xA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-30 0:27 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-09 11:32 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-02-14 15:16 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-02-14 16:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-19 9:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
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