From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Haggerty Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CommunityGuidelines Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:43:34 +0200 Message-ID: <51B76FD6.7070304@alum.mit.edu> References: <51B6AA7F.1060505@alum.mit.edu> <87li6g969j.fsf@linux-k42r.v.cablecom.net> <51B736FA.5010407@alum.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thomas Rast , Git List , Junio C Hamano , Jonathan Nieder , A Large Angry SCM To: Ramkumar Ramachandra X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Jun 11 20:43:47 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UmTXj-00016H-41 for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:43:43 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753747Ab3FKSnj (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:43:39 -0400 Received: from alum-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu ([18.7.68.14]:47653 "EHLO alum-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751494Ab3FKSni (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:43:38 -0400 X-AuditID: 1207440e-b7f0f6d0000043b7-df-51b76fd9be9b Received: from outgoing-alum.mit.edu (OUTGOING-ALUM.MIT.EDU [18.7.68.33]) by alum-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 32.02.17335.9DF67B15; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.69.140] (p57A251F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.162.81.240]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as mhagger@ALUM.MIT.EDU) by outgoing-alum.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id r5BIhYr3007152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:43:36 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 In-Reply-To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrAKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixO6iqHszf3ugweQFBharZj5mt+i60s1k 0dB7hdli2s9drBZvby5htLh7eRW7A5vHzll32T1uv57P7HHxkrLH501yASxR3DZJiSVlwZnp efp2CdwZK6YvYS+YylXRtv8LWwNjD0cXIyeHhICJxKHp15ggbDGJC/fWs3UxcnEICVxmlLjT d5oVwjnPJNE69z8LSBWvgLbEzq4OZhCbRUBV4uOvP2DdbAK6Eot6msFsUYEwiffLprJC1AtK nJz5BKiXg0MEqObZKm+QmcwCFxglTk7axAhSIyxgJnHsxUwWiGVdzBLdGz+wgSQ4BQIlTu6c yAzSzCygLrF+nhBImFlAXmL72znMExgFZiFZMQuhahaSqgWMzKsY5RJzSnN1cxMzc4pTk3WL kxPz8lKLdI31cjNL9FJTSjcxQkKcbwdj+3qZQ4wCHIxKPLwHzLYHCrEmlhVX5h5ilORgUhLl PZ8NFOJLyk+pzEgszogvKs1JLT7EKMHBrCTCq5sLlONNSaysSi3Kh0lJc7AoifOqLVH3ExJI TyxJzU5NLUgtgsnKcHAoSfDeygNqFCxKTU+tSMvMKUFIM3FwggznkhIpTs1LSS1KLC3JiAdF anwxMFZBUjxAex+CtPMWFyTmAkUhWk8x6nLM+DH5HaMQS15+XqqUOC8PMCUJCYAUZZTmwa2A JbRXjOJAHwvzKoFU8QCTIdykV0BLmICWFGWALSlJREhJNTCGbl23RtPxx7S8XrHOQ4s9xfc5 Szm/cAh/MHFGye17Hoa3bXSn3e3g/MGWlj7/w/P1Jmb7WP+4HiiN4o9/m70sh/n+ Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 06/11/2013 08:16 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: > This is an exercise. I can easily be more tactful (as evidenced by > other threads), but I'm choosing not to be. I want you to focus on > the argument, and not the tone. I stopped reading your email here. I've read enough tactless emails over the last few days, but to be asked to read an email that was *intentionally* written tactlessly is too detrimental to my quality of life. In German there is an expression "Der Ton macht die Musik": "the tone makes the music", by which they mean that the *way* something is said is at least as important as what is said. The tone *is* an integral part of the message and (1) the writer will be much more effective by making the tone agree with the literal words of the message and (2) for this particular reader, the effort of accommodating writers who are unwilling to do so has become too exhausting. I naively thought that I might be able to help calm the situation, but I have concluded that nothing I can say or do will have that effect. Therefore I bow out of this part of the conversation and hope either that it will fizzle out or that perhaps a deus ex machina will appear. Michael -- Michael Haggerty mhagger@alum.mit.edu http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/