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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Ilya Bobyr <ilya.bobyr@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RTC/PATCH] Add 'update-branch' hook
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:00:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <535862411c29d_3c7abff3103e@nysa.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqvbtzwv4l.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com>

Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Junio C Hamano wrote:
> >> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > ... there are _already_ hooks without pre/post.
> >> 
> >> Like commit-msg?  Yes, it would have been nicer if it were named
> >> verify-commit-message or something.
> >
> > No it wouldn't. I can use the commit-msg hook to change the commit message and
> > to absolutely no verification, so verify-commit-message would be misleading.
> 
> You are confused (and please do not spread the confusion).  If you
> read the first paragraph of the documentation on the hook and think
> for 5 seconds why "--no-verify" countermands it, you would realize
> that the hook is primarily meant for verification.

I do not care what the hook is "primarily for", it's for more than just
verification.

> We also allow the hook to edit the message, but that is not even "a useful
> feature added as an afterthought"; the documentation mentions it because the
> implementation did not bother to make sure the hook did not touch the message
> file.

Indeed it's too late now, and now the hook does more than just verification,
therefore verify-commit-message wouldn't be an appropriate name.

> It was a mistake not to call it with a clear name that tells
> verification happens there.

No, the name is fine for what the hook does, if you would want the script to do
something different, *and* change the name of the script, that's a different
issue.

> >> Old mistakes are harder to change because of inertia.  It is not a
> >> good excuse to knowingly make a new mistake to add new exceptions
> >> that the users need to check documentations for, is it?
> 
> I see no reason to waste more time on this point.

You haven't proved it's a mistake.

The only thing you have showed is that letting the 'commit-msg' modify the
message was a mistake, not that the name is wrong for what it currently does.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-24  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-21  2:23 [RTC/PATCH] Add 'update-branch' hook Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21  7:25 ` Eric Sunshine
2014-04-21 20:02 ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-21 20:49   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 21:15     ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-21 21:17       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 21:39         ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-21 21:36           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 14:43             ` Stephen Leake
2014-04-22 16:31               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 17:09                 ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-22 17:28                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-23  7:49                 ` Stephen Leake
2014-04-23  9:07                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-23 22:44                     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24  1:11                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-26 17:38                         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-26 19:28                           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 14:26                     ` Stephen Leake
2014-04-24 18:08                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 21:52           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-21 22:26             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 23:00               ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-23 21:30                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-23 22:15                   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24  1:00                     ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2014-04-22  6:41     ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-22 16:30       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 21:17 ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-21 21:15   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 21:36     ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-21 21:35       ` Felipe Contreras
     [not found]         ` <CADcHDF+XcWEkvyP3tL4ibicnaMVJpixUZu1Ces0BXWkzPGsodw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-04-21 22:24           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  6:05             ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-22  6:45               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  7:00                 ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-22  6:56                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  6:35 ` Ilya Bobyr
2014-04-22 16:27   ` Felipe Contreras

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