From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Felipe Contreras Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 04/25] contrib: remove 'buildsystems' Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 05:57:56 -0500 Message-ID: <536cb4b4cda1e_6b2dde730827@nysa.notmuch> References: <1399597116-1851-1-git-send-email-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <1399597116-1851-5-git-send-email-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <536c8e63448c2_25d198d30c55@nysa.notmuch> <536c966cf0e9c_2bf0e952f079@nysa.notmuch> <536ca0a0f38af_39ea14ab31017@nysa.notmuch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: GIT Mailing-list , Junio C Hamano , Marius Storm-Olsen To: Erik Faye-Lund , Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri May 09 12:58:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WiiVE-0002c0-7h for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 12:58:08 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756129AbaEIK6D (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 May 2014 06:58:03 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com ([209.85.219.54]:64646 "EHLO mail-oa0-f54.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756616AbaEIK6B (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 May 2014 06:58:01 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id j17so4663850oag.13 for ; Fri, 09 May 2014 03:58:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jmhPqX2M5UkX7olUMnCbezS4fele5hWdGzxuCPR9B0k=; b=M35d7EUWrIM2jFxlfMawDgoAH9RM3joM3QMRRy8/Es4AoP9icIzQCnTiUOGQwSaUiw c6/YQrwcnmxYj4UzegVLNcLzZly0WIuJIbG7JN8YJZnSzCFfQSVDnc3WFPlLp3G8cpkk rK3HNn1bxyspH+MMicacWLrDyzKU4l/25tHNI/z1XOW1pKY3U/5DsaEBIk8NNrcK0fbp tjvtQRFeUdgbOLi6ECecejaxHVYsAQ3gZUGtUxYwbDYOBpY55Q7mezr9Z+wO5PH4CPR4 uz1yM/uQCHfMDL8hlwN8MZKV0MkFF98YPJUJ9EUxkzUsdLwPmm+Ss4S4b0ZlzQj6Z0Fk /Oqg== X-Received: by 10.60.69.71 with SMTP id c7mr2400184oeu.82.1399633081138; Fri, 09 May 2014 03:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (189-211-224-40.static.axtel.net. [189.211.224.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ub1sm15038378oeb.9.2014.05.09.03.57.58 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 May 2014 03:58:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Felipe Contreras > wrote: > > Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > >> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Felipe Contreras > >> > You think changing the execution bit of a file is considered "activity"? > >> > >> Well, now we're getting into semantics, which I don't care so much > >> about. > > > > Convenient. > > Yeah, the part above here goes in my "don't argue with idiots, they'll > drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"-filter. > Good luck trying to convince *anyone* with this line of argumentation. It has been demonstrated that there is inactivity. The fact that your semantics about "inactivity" differ from the rest of the world is irrelevant. > >> It shows some sort of interest in the scripts, at least. > > > > Not it doesn't. Jonathan Nieder updated the execution bit on a bunch of > > scripts in contrib, these being just in the way. It doesn't show > > interest at all. > > > > All of those changes relate to the MSVC-build. So it's not "just some > batch-fixup" as you're trying to suggest. It is a huge batch-fixup[1]. In fact he mentioned he tested it on Debian, not Windows. > > If you don't care that these scripts keep working properly, I don't see > > why anybody else would. > > You're the one making up requirements for tests here, so this is your > itch. This script gets fixed by it's stake-holders when it breaks, and > that has worked out fine so far. You are not interested in improving the quality of these scripts. Got it. > > The script doesn't depend on the version of the Makefile, and proof of > > that is that is has *never* been changed even though the Makefile has. > > Except it has, in 74cf9bd. Once change in *four* years. My god! How are people ever going to keep up with such amount of changes if it moves out-of-tree! [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/238347 -- Felipe Contreras