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From: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Kyle Lippincott <spectral@google.com>,
	Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Phillip Wood <phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk>,
	Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/7] unit-tests: add for_test
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:00:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53c1eaeb-6106-492c-9c44-13a7cd1bd0d0@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zqhwwudf-yjvJ_By@tanuki>

Am 30.07.24 um 06:49 schrieb Patrick Steinhardt:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 11:55:52AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
>>
>>> is standalone nowadays and called "clar" [1]. The biggest downside of it
>>> is that it depends on Python to auto-generate the test "main" function,
>>> which is not really a good fit for the Git project.
>>
>> Is that because Python is optional (like, we only use it for
>> optional Perforce thing and import-zip in contrib), or are there
>> other concerns?
>>
>> Unlike these components, unit tests are not even for the end-user
>> consumers, so if it is Python that you find it a blocker, I do not
>> see a reason to reject it.  The thing looked like a simple script
>> that does not use any tricky language construct or modules.
>
> No concerns other than adding another mandatory dependency for devs. We
> already depend on Perl and Shell, so adding Python to the stack feels
> suboptimal to me.
>
> As you say though, the script isn't all that involved. So it would also
> be possible to port it to Perl if we want to do that, I guess.

From the point of view of a "minimal C unit testing framework" surely
the implementation language with the best dependency story would be C.
Perhaps it could then also test itself.  On the other hand, writing a
string handling program in 2024 in C is probably not the smartest idea.

Then again, generate.py uses a non-greedy regex to remove single-line
comments, which seems wrong, and doesn't seem to support preprocessor
directives like #if and #ifdef, so whole tests can't be disabled this
way.  And it uses pickle to cache results; does that mean it would be
slow without it?  Anyway, point being that parsing C isn't so easy
using Python either.

René

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-30 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-29 15:33 [PATCH 0/6] unit-tests: add and use TEST_RUN to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:35 ` [PATCH 1/6] t0080: move expected output to a file René Scharfe
2024-07-01  3:20   ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 19:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-01 22:10       ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 23:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-02  0:57           ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 19:51     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-01 22:18       ` Jeff King
2024-06-29 15:43 ` [PATCH 2/6] unit-tests: add TEST_RUN René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:13   ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 15:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-02 20:55       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 20:55     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-05  9:42       ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-05 18:01         ` René Scharfe
2024-07-07  7:20           ` René Scharfe
2024-07-08 15:18             ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-08 15:39               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11 15:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 13:27                   ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-13 15:48                     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 15:12           ` phillip.wood123
2024-06-29 15:44 ` [PATCH 3/6] t-ctype: use TEST_RUN René Scharfe
2024-07-01 19:49   ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-01 20:04     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14       ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55         ` René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:45 ` [PATCH 4/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14   ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55     ` René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:47 ` [PATCH 6/6] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-01 19:58   ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-01 20:18     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14     ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-04 13:09         ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-10 13:55       ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-14 11:44         ` René Scharfe
2024-07-15 14:46         ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-02 17:29     ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-02 20:55       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-03  3:42         ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-08 18:11       ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-08 21:59         ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-01 19:59 ` [PATCH 0/6] unit-tests: add and use TEST_RUN to simplify tests Josh Steadmon
2024-07-10 22:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11 10:05   ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-11 15:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-14 10:35     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] unit-tests: add and use for_test " René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:15   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] t0080: move expected output to a file René Scharfe
2024-07-23 20:54     ` Jeff King
2024-07-21  6:21   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] unit-tests: add for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-22 19:13     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-22 19:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-22 20:31         ` René Scharfe
2024-07-22 20:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-22 22:47           ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-23 12:37             ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23  6:02           ` [PATCH v2] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:25             ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-22 22:41         ` [PATCH v2 2/6] unit-tests: add for_test Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-23  7:18           ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23  6:36         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23  9:25           ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23  9:53             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23 12:37               ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:00                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23 13:23                 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-23 13:58                   ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:24       ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-25  9:45         ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-30 14:00           ` René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:22   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] t-ctype: use for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:23   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:24   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:26   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:23     ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-24 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] add and use for_test to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:48   ` [PATCH v3 1/7] t0080: use here-doc test body René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:50   ` [PATCH v3 2/7] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:51   ` [PATCH v3 3/7] unit-tests: add for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-24 19:24     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-25  9:45       ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-25 16:02       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-25 21:31         ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-26  2:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-26 12:56             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-26 15:59               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-29  9:48                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-29 18:55                   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-30  4:49                     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-30 14:00                       ` René Scharfe [this message]
2024-07-31  5:19                         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-31 16:48                           ` René Scharfe
2024-08-01  6:51                             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-24 14:52   ` [PATCH v3 4/7] t-ctype: use for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:54   ` [PATCH v3 5/7] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:54   ` [PATCH v3 6/7] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:55   ` [PATCH v3 7/7] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:03 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] add and use if_test to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:05   ` [PATCH v4 1/6] t0080: use here-doc test body René Scharfe
2024-07-31 20:52     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-30 14:07   ` [PATCH v4 2/6] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-31 21:03     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-08-01  7:23       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:08   ` [PATCH v4 3/6] unit-tests: add if_test René Scharfe
2024-07-31 22:04     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-08-01  7:32       ` René Scharfe
2024-08-02  0:48         ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-30 14:10   ` [PATCH v4 4/6] t-ctype: use if_test René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:10   ` [PATCH v4 5/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:12   ` [PATCH v4 6/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe

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