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From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	infra-steering@kernel.org, Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Sources for 3.18-rc1 not uploaded
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:44:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54459E49.3040908@linuxfoundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141020222809.GB223410@vauxhall.crustytoothpaste.net>

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On 20/10/14 06:28 PM, brian m. carlson wrote:
>> Junio, quite frankly, I don't think that that fix was a good idea. I'd
>> > suggest having a *separate* umask for the pax headers, so that we do
>> > not  break this long-lasting stability of "git archive" output in ways
>> > that are unfixable and not compatible. kernel.org has relied (for a
>> > *long* time) on being able to just upload the signature of the
>> > resulting tar-file, because both sides can generate the same tar-fiel
>> > bit-for-bit.
> It sounds like kernel.org has a bug, then.  Perhaps that's the
> appropriate place to fix the issue.

It's not a bug, it's a feature (TM). KUP relies on git-archive's ability
to create identical tar archives across platforms and versions. The
benefit is that Linus or Greg can create a detached PGP signature
against a tarball created from "git archive [tag]" on their system, and
just tell kup to create the same archive remotely, thus saving them the
trouble of uploading 80Mb each time they cut a release.

With their frequent travel to places where upload bandwidth is both slow
and unreliable, this ability to not have to upload hundreds of Mbs each
time they cut a release is very handy and certainly helps keep kernel
releases on schedule.

So, while it's fair to point out that git-archive was never intended to
always create bit-for-bit identical outputs, it would be *very nice* if
this remained in place, as at least one large-ish deployment (us) finds
it really handy.

-K


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-20 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20141020115943.GA27144@gmail.com>
2014-10-20 15:25 ` Sources for 3.18-rc1 not uploaded Linus Torvalds
2014-10-20 18:28   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-20 18:37     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2014-10-20 19:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-20 21:52       ` Greg KH
2014-10-20 22:28   ` brian m. carlson
2014-10-20 23:17     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-21  8:08       ` Michael J Gruber
2014-10-21 16:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-21 17:25           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-21 18:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-22  9:42           ` Michael J Gruber
2014-10-23  1:09             ` brian m. carlson
2014-10-26 18:59               ` René Scharfe
2014-10-26 21:15                 ` brian m. carlson
2014-10-27 20:19                 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-10-20 23:44     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev [this message]
2014-10-21 18:59       ` Junio C Hamano

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