From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbiBHdWltbWFyYQ==?= Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] git help: group common commands by theme Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 22:08:13 +0200 Message-ID: <554D17AD.9070306@gmail.com> References: <554B30D5.3050909@emmajane.net> <554CFEC3.5030105@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Emma Jane Hogbin Westby , git@vger.kernel.org To: Junio C Hamano X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri May 08 22:08:24 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YqoZL-00084w-Ag for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 22:08:23 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932115AbbEHUIT convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 May 2015 16:08:19 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com ([74.125.82.43]:32871 "EHLO mail-wg0-f43.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753342AbbEHUIQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 May 2015 16:08:16 -0400 Received: by wgin8 with SMTP id n8so81995379wgi.0 for ; Fri, 08 May 2015 13:08:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6qIUhJmZfb6s5SZjXXQEvK8m58JNvHALcn0vIEfLj2k=; b=1B/pzV7/J6cRdG4qxyQlT8wv+W9C2+le7zVEdDL1zA+1sQtIY0J+dqXh0WYgQAuE6B FlJwLaNbrCKL3z8F8FhtUL3IKRRPmqswAgMHy6+O1oIl6xTeWugqd6BxVxysikTKeF3O g/m4Zq/3zEZ2M6y0atgCFai/8PlbyOBvlXAr34RO0qwrA6I300itdLI7VFKELAc2Jo3Q nWEJKfcp3NLBStsP1Ks+ahJTdW25c8OvHwAqPrGMTOxjyRrnBUVSbypzkwizt9c/2aa0 LejJprZTK87dNaV3Uym/cZaZwO38tTZ/LSSPzPKXnspF0yzedp4iDF5aq3pmSKWbTz6u cJcA== X-Received: by 10.194.57.40 with SMTP id f8mr10692307wjq.86.1431115695331; Fri, 08 May 2015 13:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (bd231-1-88-176-208-17.fbx.proxad.net. [88.176.208.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kc4sm9885229wjc.2.2015.05.08.13.08.14 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 May 2015 13:08:14 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 05/08/2015 08:58 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > S=C3=A9bastien Guimmara writes: > >> On 05/07/2015 11:31 AM, Emma Jane Hogbin Westby wrote: >> >>>> The most commonly used git commands are: >>>> >>>> * starting a working area: >>>> clone Clone a repository into a new directory >>>> init Create an empty Git repository or reinitialize = [...] >>>> >>>> * working on the current change: >>>> add Add file contents to the index >>>> reset Reset current HEAD to the specified state >>> I could not live without status at this stage, and status always te= lls >>> me what I should do next. I'm tempted to see it up here instead... >> >> The layout was not designed to be workflow oriented (even if it appe= ars >> so), but rather theme oriented. > > I tend to agree with Emma here; even if your original ordering was > not using the workflow as the grouping criterion, that is something > that can easily be fixed, I would think. > > After all, the very original did not categorize and sorted > alphabetically, so there is no room for the "we chose to be > theme-oriented (I am not sure what it means, though) and a major > redesign at this point will confuse users" kind of resistance to > come into the picture. At least not yet. > > Thanks. > Exactly. The new version will be workflow-oriented. By "theme-oriented", I mean that the group order does not necessarily follow a "typical workflow" chronological order, even though it was heavily implied. I should emphasize this "workflow" thing in the next patch.