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From: Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>
To: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] add test to demonstrate that shallow recursive clones fail
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 21:39:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <564B9091.7070902@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGZ79kZGdOCzJ5V-RZcBbZE09HsSUQrypHaFT-N8wks7NA=21Q@mail.gmail.com>

Am 17.11.2015 um 21:04 schrieb Stefan Beller:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de> wrote:
>>
>> But for quite some time you'll have older servers out there that
>> don't support fetching a single sha1 or aren't configured to do so.
>
> Only when talking about the open source side. If you have all the
> submodules/superprojects on your companies mirror, you can control
> the git installations there.

Sure. But that doesn't mean we should make life harder for the open
source side, no? We'll have to support both for quite some time.

>> Wouldn't it be better to give the user an appropriate warning and
>> fall back to cloning everything for those submodules while using the
>> optimized new method for all others and the superproject? Otherwise
>> you won't be able to limit the depth if only a single submodule
>> server doesn't support fetching a single sha1.
>>
>
> I think warnings are fine, but no fallbacks. The warning could look like:
>
>      Server for submodule <foo> doesn't support fetching by sha1.
>      Fetch again without depth argument.
>
> and keep going with the other submodules. This would allow the user
> to make an informed decision if they want to have the fallback solution
> (which requires more band width, disk space)

No, this is a regression. This worked before but now some submodules
are missing from the clone. And if that happens inside a Jenkins
script I doubt that Jenkins can make an informed decision, that job
will simply fail.

> On the other hand, that's what people do today, so it's not that bad either,
> so I guess falling bad would work too.

Not that bad? I don't see any other sane way. Don't break formerly
working use cases without a very good reason. Fall back to what we
did before (even if it is suboptimal) and only then use the new
optimized (and admittedly better) feature when it is available.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-17 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-12  9:37 [PATCH v2] add test to demonstrate that shallow recursive clones fail larsxschneider
2015-11-12 23:34 ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-15 12:43   ` Lars Schneider
2015-11-13  5:35 ` Jeff King
2015-11-13 18:41   ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-13 23:16     ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-13 23:38       ` Jeff King
2015-11-13 23:41         ` Jeff King
2015-11-14  0:10           ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-16 18:59             ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-16 19:25               ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-16 21:42                 ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-16 22:56                   ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-17 19:46                     ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-17 20:04                       ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-17 20:39                         ` Jens Lehmann [this message]
2015-11-17 20:49                           ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-17 21:00                             ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-17 20:17                 ` Duy Nguyen
2015-11-17 21:43                   ` Jeff King
2015-11-18 12:32                     ` Duy Nguyen
2015-11-18 21:11                       ` Jeff King
2015-11-18 21:36                         ` Stefan Beller
     [not found]                           ` <CAOE36qj2m4e3hw73-QoLbbpGv4RiyhBt_ou7eN4i4q8pF15rdA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-19 13:58                             ` Jeff King
2015-11-30 18:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-01  0:47         ` Stefan Beller
2015-12-01 12:15           ` Duy Nguyen
2015-12-01 21:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-01 22:22               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-03 20:03                 ` Stefan Beller
2015-12-04 15:32                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-04 16:15                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-04  7:52                 ` Duy Nguyen
2015-11-15 12:53   ` Lars Schneider
2015-11-17 21:34     ` Jeff King

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