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From: Kevin Bracey <kevin@bracey.fi>
To: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
Cc: GIT Mailing-list <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] add QSORT
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 18:00:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57F51577.10709@bracey.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29d3dde0-c527-3ab8-914c-6fbdc5e81e1c@web.de>

On 04/10/2016 23:31, René Scharfe wrote:

>
> So let's summarize; here's the effect of a raw qsort(3) call:
>
> array == NULL  nmemb  bug  QSORT  following NULL check
> -------------  -----  ---  -----  --------------------
>             0      0  no   qsort  is skipped
>             0     >0  no   qsort  is skipped
>             1      0  no   qsort  is skipped (bad!) ******
>             1     >0  yes  qsort  is skipped ******
>
Right - row 3 may not be a bug from the point of view of your internals, 
but it means you violate the API of qsort.Therefore a fix is required.

> With the micro-optimization removed (nmemb > 0) the matrix gets simpler:
>
> array == NULL  nmemb  bug  QSORT  following NULL check
> -------------  -----  ---  -----  --------------------
>             0      0  no   noop   is executed
>             0     >0  no   qsort  is skipped
>             1      0  no   noop   is executed
>             1     >0  yes  qsort  is skipped ******
>
> And with your NULL check (array != NULL) we'd get:
>
> array == NULL  nmemb  bug  QSORT  following NULL check
> -------------  -----  ---  -----  --------------------
>             0      0  no   qsort  reuses check result
>             0     >0  no   qsort  reuses check result
>             1      0  no   noop   reuses check result
>             1     >0  yes  noop   reuses check result
>
> Did I get it right?  AFAICS all variants (except raw qsort) are safe 
> -- no useful NULL checks are removed, and buggy code should be noticed 
> by segfaults in code accessing the sorted array.
I think your tables are correct.

But I disagree that you could ever call invoking the "****" lines safe. 
Unless you have documentation on what limit GCC (and your other 
compilers) are prepared to put on the undefined behaviour of violating 
that "non-null" constraint.

Up to now dereferencing a null pointer has been implicitly (or 
explicitly?) defined as simply generating SIGSEGV. And that has 
naturally extended into NULL passed to library implementations. But 
that's no longer true - it seems bets are somewhat off.

But, as long as you are confident you never invoke that line without a 
program bug - ie an API precondition of your own QSORT is that NULL is 
legal iff nmemb is zero, then I guess it's fine. Behaviour is defined, 
as long as you don't violate your internal preconditions.

Kevin



      reply	other threads:[~2016-10-05 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-29 15:23 [PATCH 1/3] add QSORT René Scharfe
2016-09-29 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] use QSORT René Scharfe
2016-09-29 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] remove unnecessary check before QSORT René Scharfe
2016-09-29 22:36 ` [PATCH 1/3] add QSORT Junio C Hamano
2016-09-29 23:21   ` René Scharfe
2016-09-29 23:40     ` René Scharfe
2016-10-01 16:19   ` René Scharfe
2016-10-03 16:46     ` Kevin Bracey
2016-10-03 17:09     ` Kevin Bracey
2016-10-03 22:00       ` René Scharfe
2016-10-04  5:28         ` Kevin Bracey
2016-10-04 20:31           ` René Scharfe
2016-10-05 15:00             ` Kevin Bracey [this message]

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