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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.email>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	"Mathias Kunter" <mathiaskunter@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Ramkumar Ramachandra" <r@artagnon.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	"Matthieu Moy" <git@matthieu-moy.fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] doc: push: explain default=simple correctly
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 11:35:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60b661d5ee7cc_3c4208c1@natae.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a385c279-5902-40af-f54d-85b950bbb497@iee.email>

Philip Oakley wrote:
> On 01/06/2021 13:12, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > So it's more like:
> >
> >   centralized = ~decentralized
> >   triangular = ~two-way
> >
> > A centralized workflow consists of a single repository where branches
> > are typically two-way, but not necessarily.
> >
> > A decentralized workflow consists of multiple repositories where
> > branches are typically triangular, but not necessarily.
> >
> > So the triangularity is per branch, not per repository, and same_repo
> > means a two-way branch, could be a centralized or decentralized
> > workflow.

> My personal viewpoint is that triangular flow happens when you cannot
> push to the repo you consider as upstream.

It's not about permissions. Even if I had permissions to push to git.git,
I wouldn't do so. I do have permission to push to some public projects, but I
instead send patches/pull requests like everyone else.

It's more about ownership. In my personal repositories I can push
whatever I want, but on shared repositories I have to be more careful.

> Rather you typically have a publish/backup repo instead (semi-public,
> semi-private - few are interested ;-).
> 
> That (can't push one way around the triangle) part of the flow is
> separate from the distinction between patch flows and merge (Pull)
> request flows.

I think it's not separate, that is the thing that makes a triangular
flow triangular: the flow of patches goes through a different repository,
and then they get picked and merged into the upstream one.

> E.g. My personal Git repo can be triangular with both git.git and
> git-for-windows, plus a few (what I view as) fetch-only repos from other
> collaborators/maintainers beyond the triangular 'golden' upstream repo.
> 
> I often consider GitHub as a centraliser, but I don't think it's what is
> being considered above.

GitHub is all about pull requests, you fork a repository, you push your
branch into that personal fork, and then you request a pull from
upstream.

That's triangular.

> --
> A thought did come to mind that a Git serve/repo (typically bare) should
> be able to offer a 'refs/users/*' space (c.f. refs/remotes used by
> individual users) that allows a type of 'centralised' operation (almost
> as if all the users used a common alternates repo). Users could only
> push to their own /user refs, but could pull from the main refs/heads,
> and their own refs/users/ space.
> 
> This would give flexibility to smaller corporate central operations to
> offer 'triangular flow' where each dev would feel like they have their
> own 'push' repo, when in reality it's really personalised branches. As
> usual the authentication of user names being handed off elsewhere;-). It
> could avoid some of the --alternate management aspects.
> 
> It's a thought..

Yeah, and interesting thought. But it demonstrates what I said above:
you can have a central repository, and yet have triangular branches:

 feature-1 <=  origin/master
            => origin/felipec/feature-1

Cheers.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-01 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-29  7:11 [PATCH v2 0/6] Unconvolutize push.default=simple Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] push: hedge code of default=simple Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  4:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  7:50     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] push: move code to setup_push_simple() Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  5:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  8:03     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] push: reorganize setup_push_simple() Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  5:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] push: simplify setup_push_simple() Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  5:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] push: remove unused code in setup_push_upstream() Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] doc: push: explain default=simple correctly Felipe Contreras
2021-05-30 18:19   ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-30 19:09     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  7:12       ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-31 15:14         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31 16:54           ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-31 17:31             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31 18:38               ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-31 21:15                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31 21:54                   ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-31  5:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  8:11     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-01  9:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-01 12:12         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-01 15:57           ` Philip Oakley
2021-06-01 16:35             ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2021-06-01 19:39               ` Philip Oakley
2021-06-01 23:53                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-01 19:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 00/15] push: revamp push.default Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 01/15] push: create new get_upstream_ref() helper Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 02/15] push: return immediately in trivial switch case Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 03/15] push: reorder switch cases Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  8:14     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 04/15] push: factor out null branch check Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 05/15] push: only get the branch when needed Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  8:16     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 06/15] push: make setup_push_* return the dst Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 07/15] push: trivial simplifications Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 08/15] push: get rid of all the setup_push_* functions Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 09/15] push: factor out the typical case Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 10/15] push: remove redundant check Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 11/15] push: fix Yoda condition Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 12/15] push: remove trivial function Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 13/15] push: only get triangular when needed Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 14/15] push: don't get a full remote object Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 15/15] push: rename !triangular to same_remote Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  7:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29 20:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Unconvolutize push.default=simple Philip Oakley
2021-05-30 16:27   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-30 11:31 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-30 16:22   ` Felipe Contreras

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