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From: Siddh Raman Pant <siddh.raman.pant@oracle.com>
To: "j6t@kdbg.org" <j6t@kdbg.org>
Cc: "oswald.buddenhagen@gmx.de" <oswald.buddenhagen@gmx.de>,
	"gitster@pobox.com" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"code@khaugsbakk.name" <code@khaugsbakk.name>,
	"peff@peff.net" <peff@peff.net>, "ps@pks.im" <ps@pks.im>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	"newren@gmail.com" <newren@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] notes: support an external command to display notes
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 11:10:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <65e2e9f6f30b74725ca4516424e8d7116383e368.camel@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76cc093d2835a7b3ed110e20f1480dbe5fc2ecbb.camel@oracle.com>

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Going by no response, I assume this is NACK'd then?

Thanks,
Siddh

On Wed, Jun 24 2026 at 15:23:23 +0530, Siddh Raman Pant wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24 2026 at 13:19:26 +0530, Johannes Sixt wrote:
> > > One solution to this is to move the freshness policy out of git so that
> > > it is someone else's problem. We can have a realtime fetch or faster
> > > updation via external helper means. But unfortunately we lose the
> > > coherence in the display of information, and so the user would end up
> > > reinventing git log in his quest to have same workflow.
> > 
> > You are presenting one solution here. But a more obvious solution would
> > have been to make Git's notes implementation capable enough to keep up
> > with the volume of notes that are produced by your team.
> 
> Git storage is inherently based on refs, so that would require massive
> changes IMO. The actual fundamental problem here is that only the
> latest state is useful at any given point of time, and not the past
> history.
> 
> > Another solution would be to track the information outside of Git notes
> > entirely, similar to how pull requests, issues, reviews, and
> > conversations are tracked by Git hosters in databases outside of Git.
> 
> This is precisely what this allows for. The information is tracked
> outside of Git, and the notes path just shows it along with the commit.
> 
> A developer works on the code using Git. An external website doesn't
> allow the same level of coherence in display of information as a note.
> The commit is a fundamental unit of change. IMO it makes sense for Git
> to be able to show a note about it from a provided external medium.
> 
> > > Let's add support for notes.externalCommand, a protected-configuration
> > > command that git runs as a long-lived helper when displaying notes. git
> > > sends commit IDs to the helper and displays any returned text through
> > > the existing notes formatting path. This keeps presentation in git
> > > while letting the helper decide how fresh note text is obtained.
> > 
> > To my eyes, this looks like an overengineered solution that helps one
> > user of a niche feature of Git.
> 
> This can also allow for other uses too. For example, searching lore I
> just found out that a colleague in Oracle Linux (Vegard) was trying to
> solve a related problem in 2022:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/git/20220802075401.2393-1-vegard.nossum@oracle.com/
> 
> I think it was for achieving something like this more generally:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/vegard/linux.git/commit/?id=339f83612f3a569b194680768b22bf113c26a29d
> 
> An external notes command can be a solution for it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Siddh

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-09 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-23 10:38 [PATCH v3 0/4] Add support for an external command for fetching notes Siddh Raman Pant
2026-05-23 10:38 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] notes: convert raw arg in format_display_notes() to bool Siddh Raman Pant
2026-05-23 10:38 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] wrapper: add support for timeout and deadline in read helpers Siddh Raman Pant
2026-05-23 10:38 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] t3301: cover generic displayed notes behavior Siddh Raman Pant
2026-05-23 10:38 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] notes: support an external command to display notes Siddh Raman Pant
2026-06-24  7:49   ` Johannes Sixt
2026-06-24  9:53     ` Siddh Raman Pant
2026-07-09 11:10       ` Siddh Raman Pant [this message]
2026-07-29  9:58         ` Siddh Raman Pant
2026-05-28  5:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Add support for an external command for fetching notes Siddh Raman Pant
2026-06-16 10:59 ` Siddh Raman Pant
2026-06-22  4:45   ` Siddh Raman Pant

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