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Thu, 9 Oct 2025 17:57:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThreadId: And9clSpnOi7 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2025 23:57:09 +0200 From: "Kristoffer Haugsbakk" To: "Junio C Hamano" , "Phillip Wood" Cc: "Johannes Sixt" , "Kristoffer Haugsbakk" , git@vger.kernel.org, "Phillip Wood" Message-Id: <6a921119-6fba-4f82-916f-d80d3f46d54d@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <6af09726-e3bf-4903-87ae-9524ad334678@kdbg.org> <3a8dfd13-982d-4c83-b675-1e9a63bb6ab0@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: warn against --committer-date-is-author-date Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, at 23:41, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Phillip Wood writes: > >>> You should only use >>> + this option to lie about the committer date when applying >> >> s/lie/override/ ? > > It cannot be "fixing an earlier mistake by overriding the correct > data". It is deliberately using a data that does not match the > reality to replace what was recorded, so in this case, "lie" would > be the proper characterization, I would think. Okay. I don=E2=80=99t think he was saying =E2=80=9Cfix=E2=80=9D but just= the more neutral =E2=80=9Coverride=E2=80=9D. I was more confused last year[1] about the use-case here, in turn more dismissive; I thought that it was just a vanity thing. I=E2=80=99m all f= or dictating what the author date is since that=E2=80=99s my judgement to m= ake, and moreover such fiddling is naturally tempered by common sense. (Did I author this between one month ago and now: yes, because I originally wrote it one month ago and then amended it three times in this timestamp. Did I author this *three months* ago: No, I hadn=E2=80=99t ev= en thought about it at that point. That=E2=80=99s just a lie). It=E2=80=99s easy to have a common sense for the authoring date because = everyone knows of =E2=80=9Cauthoring=E2=80=9D. It=E2=80=99s more difficult for pe= ople to have common sense for the commit date if they don=E2=80=99t know what =E2=80=9Ccommi= tter=E2=80=9D is for. I guess I like the pointed =E2=80=9Clie=E2=80=9D in this case because un= careful lying can cause technical issues. So you better sharpen your senses and have a real reason for doing it. =F0=9F=94=97 1: https://lore.kernel.org/git/93041214-4774-49eb-b8bd-2464= 8134cded@app.fastmail.com/ > >[snip]