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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/11] config-batch: basic boilerplate of new builtin
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:17:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c8b984e-feda-48c6-b67d-80a41343bfc0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq1pj0nleg.fsf@gitster.g>

On 2/4/2026 6:23 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
>>
>> Later changes will document, implement, and test this new builtin. For now,
>> this serves as the latest example of the minimum boilerplate to introduce a
>> new builtin.
>>
>> Recently, we updated the comment in builtin.h about how to create a new
>> builtin, but failed to mention the required change to meson.build files for
>> some CI builds to pass. Fix that oversight.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
>> ---
> 
> We have had a bad reputation for having too many commands; would it
> be better to present it as a new mode of existing "git config"
> command at the end-user level, I wonder?

Interesting thought. I think we also have a bad reputation of commands
that are overloaded with too many purposes.

In this case, though, I do think that the modern 'git config <subcommand>'
model presents some clear boundaries for how the command should behave
with the 'batch' (or 'server') subcommand. Grouping all config-related
operations in the same builtin may be ideal. 

> Also after reading patches for a few early steps, I do not quite see
> "batch"-ness in this protocol; it is strictly "a single request is
> met with a single response".

The batch-ness is that multiple requests can eventually go to the same
process. The client could collect multiple commands in a batch and send
them all without processing the responses one-by-one. This is how it works
in the tests: a single input file is prepared and all responses are
scanned after-the-fact.

The back-and-forth mechanism is how the git-credential-manager tool would
use it, because it dynamically explores certain config keys. For example:
it checks the deepest possible URL for a specific key then peels away the
last segment of the URL to see if there is a directory-prefix match in a
key. (This is the main reason that there are so many requests in this
application.)

I believe this is similar to how 'git cat-file --batch' or 'git cat-file
--batch-check' work, which was my inspiration for this word. If we regret
those names, then I'm happy to move towards a better name.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-04 14:19 [PATCH 00/11] [RFC] config-batch: a new builtin for tools querying config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 01/11] config-batch: basic boilerplate of new builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 23:23   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 14:17     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2026-02-05 17:26       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-05 17:29   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-06  4:11   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 02/11] config-batch: create parse loop and unknown command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 23:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 17:30   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-06  4:15   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 03/11] config-batch: implement get v1 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-06  4:41   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 04/11] config-batch: create 'help' command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-06  4:49   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-10  4:20     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 05/11] config-batch: add NUL-terminated I/O format Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-05 17:44   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-06  4:58   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 06/11] docs: add design doc for config-batch Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-05 17:38   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-10  4:22     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-04 14:19 ` [PATCH 07/11] config: extract location structs from builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 14:20 ` [PATCH 08/11] config-batch: pass prefix through commands Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 14:20 ` [PATCH 09/11] config-batch: add 'set' v1 command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-05 17:21   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-05 18:58     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-05 19:01   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-10  4:25     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-06  5:04   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2026-02-04 14:20 ` [PATCH 10/11] t1312: create read/write test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 14:20 ` [PATCH 11/11] config-batch: add unset v1 command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2026-02-05 17:36   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-04 23:04 ` [PATCH 00/11] [RFC] config-batch: a new builtin for tools querying config Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 14:10   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-05  0:04 ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-05 13:52   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-10  4:49     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-02-05 14:45 ` Phillip Wood
2026-02-05 17:20 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk

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