[PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[John Tapsell]

Also add a comment that the web interface wraps the lines

Signed-off-by: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
---
 Documentation/SubmittingPatches |   10 +++++++++-
 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
index 9b559ad..aa41c9e 100644
--- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
+++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
@@ -491,12 +491,18 @@ message, complete the addressing and subject fields, and press send.
 Gmail
 -----
 
+GMail does not appear to have any way to turn off line wrapping in the web
+interface, so this will mangle any emails that you send.  You can however
+use any IMAP email client to connect to the google imap server, and forward
+the emails through that.  Just make sure to disable line wrapping in that
+email client.
+
 Submitting properly formatted patches via Gmail is simple now that
 IMAP support is available. First, edit your ~/.gitconfig to specify your
 account settings:
 
 [imap]
-	folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts"
+	folder = "[Google Mail]/Drafts"
 	host = imaps://imap.gmail.com
 	user = user@gmail.com
 	pass = p4ssw0rd
@@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.
 
 Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill
 in the To: and CC: fields and send away!
+If you get an error that the "Folder doesn't exist" try with folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts".
+
-- 
1.6.2.rc1

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[Jay Soffian]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:45 AM, John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also add a comment that the web interface wraps the lines
>
> Signed-off-by: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/SubmittingPatches |   10 +++++++++-
>  1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> index 9b559ad..aa41c9e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> +++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> @@ -491,12 +491,18 @@ message, complete the addressing and subject fields, and press send.
>  Gmail
>  -----
>
> +GMail does not appear to have any way to turn off line wrapping in the web
> +interface, so this will mangle any emails that you send.  You can however
> +use any IMAP email client to connect to the google imap server, and forward
> +the emails through that.  Just make sure to disable line wrapping in that
> +email client.
> +
>  Submitting properly formatted patches via Gmail is simple now that
>  IMAP support is available. First, edit your ~/.gitconfig to specify your
>  account settings:
>
>  [imap]
> -       folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts"
> +       folder = "[Google Mail]/Drafts"
>        host = imaps://imap.gmail.com
>        user = user@gmail.com
>        pass = p4ssw0rd

Hmm, maybe just point users at send-email? It has SSL support built-in
now so it can trivially use gmail's SMTP servers and you need not
worry about mangling. So the only remaining reason to use the imap
kludge is so that you have access to your gmail address book for
filling in the To/Cc fields and the subject.

j.

[PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[John Tapsell]

Also add a comment that the web interface wraps the lines

Signed-off-by: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
---
 Documentation/SubmittingPatches |   10 +++++++++-
 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
index 9b559ad..aa41c9e 100644
--- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
+++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
@@ -491,12 +491,18 @@ message, complete the addressing and subject fields, and press send.
 Gmail
 -----
 
+GMail does not appear to have any way to turn off line wrapping in the web
+interface, so this will mangle any emails that you send.  You can however
+use any IMAP email client to connect to the google imap server, and forward
+the emails through that.  Just make sure to disable line wrapping in that
+email client.
+
 Submitting properly formatted patches via Gmail is simple now that
 IMAP support is available. First, edit your ~/.gitconfig to specify your
 account settings:
 
 [imap]
-	folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts"
+	folder = "[Google Mail]/Drafts"
 	host = imaps://imap.gmail.com
 	user = user@gmail.com
 	pass = p4ssw0rd
@@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.
 
 Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill
 in the To: and CC: fields and send away!
+If you get an error that the "Folder doesn't exist" try with folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts".
+
-- 
1.6.2.rc1

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[Junio C Hamano]

John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com> writes:

> Also add a comment that the web interface wraps the lines
>
> Signed-off-by: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/SubmittingPatches |   10 +++++++++-
>  1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> index 9b559ad..aa41c9e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> +++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> @@ -491,12 +491,18 @@ message, complete the addressing and subject fields, and press send.
>  Gmail
>  -----
>  
> +GMail does not appear to have any way to turn off line wrapping in the web
> +interface, so this will mangle any emails that you send.  You can however
> +use any IMAP email client to connect to the google imap server, and forward
> +the emails through that.  Just make sure to disable line wrapping in that
> +email client.
> +
>  Submitting properly formatted patches via Gmail is simple now that
>  IMAP support is available. First, edit your ~/.gitconfig to specify your
>  account settings:
>  
>  [imap]
> -	folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts"
> +	folder = "[Google Mail]/Drafts"
>  	host = imaps://imap.gmail.com
>  	user = user@gmail.com
>  	pass = p4ssw0rd
> @@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.
>  
>  Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill
>  in the To: and CC: fields and send away!
> +If you get an error that the "Folder doesn't exist" try with folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts".
> +

Are there any Gmail insiders who can comment on this alleged change?  Is
it for everybody?  Is it only for new accounts?  If I ask google about
"gmail imap draft folder", I seem to be getting '[Gmail]/Drafts' version,
and not the '[Google Mail]/Drafts' version, e.g.

    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78892
    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=82367

It is not that I think John is talking BS.  If there is a transition of
some sort, we may want to keep the more prevalent one in the main example,
while suggesting minority one as a ballback altenative.

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[Shawn O. Pearce]

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com> writes:
> >  
> >  [imap]
> > -	folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts"
> > +	folder = "[Google Mail]/Drafts"
> >  	host = imaps://imap.gmail.com
> >  	user = user@gmail.com
> >  	pass = p4ssw0rd
> > @@ -513,3 +519,5 @@ command to send the patch emails to your Gmail Drafts folder.
> >  
> >  Go to your Gmail account, open the Drafts folder, find the patch email, fill
> >  in the To: and CC: fields and send away!
> > +If you get an error that the "Folder doesn't exist" try with folder = "[Gmail]/Drafts".
> > +
> 
> Are there any Gmail insiders who can comment on this alleged change?  Is
> it for everybody?  Is it only for new accounts?  If I ask google about
> "gmail imap draft folder", I seem to be getting '[Gmail]/Drafts' version,
> and not the '[Google Mail]/Drafts' version, e.g.
> 
>     http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78892
>     http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=82367


<add item="hat" type="googler">

Yea, the official public docs you link to say [Gmail]/Drafts.

I can't find any proof either way that we're using one or the
other format going forward.  Yes, I did look at stuff that is
only on our internal network.  I can't draw any conclusions
from what I was able to find and read.

</add>

So there's your "Gmail insider", at least from my perspective,
I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.

-- 
Shawn.

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[Sverre Rabbelier]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> wrote:
> So there's your "Gmail insider", at least from my perspective,
> I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.

In that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are "Google
Mail" branded rather than "Gmail" branded (I think Germany and the UK
are good examples?) have the "[Google Mail]/Drafts" folder, and
regular countries will keep using "[GMail]/Drafts"?

-- 
Cheers,

Sverre Rabbelier

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[Shawn O. Pearce]

Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> wrote:
> > So there's your "Gmail insider", at least from my perspective,
> > I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.
> 
> In that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are "Google
> Mail" branded rather than "Gmail" branded (I think Germany and the UK
> are good examples?) have the "[Google Mail]/Drafts" folder, and
> regular countries will keep using "[GMail]/Drafts"?

Doh, that may very well be the issue here.

I didn't realize Gmail was branded differently in some countries.
But I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.  And if it did, then
I'd expect it to follow through in everything, including the IMAP
folder names.

In which case, [Gmail]/Drafts is probably the more common one
seen in the wild by users, but a handful in the "other places"
may see [Google Mail]/Drafts.

-- 
Shawn.

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Google has renamed the imap folder

[John Tapsell]

2009/2/18 Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>:
> Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:54, Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> wrote:
>> > So there's your "Gmail insider", at least from my perspective,
>> > I really can't confirm either way any better than you can.
>>
>> In that case, doesn't it make sense for countries that are "Google
>> Mail" branded rather than "Gmail" branded (I think Germany and the UK
>> are good examples?) have the "[Google Mail]/Drafts" folder, and
>> regular countries will keep using "[GMail]/Drafts"?
>
> Doh, that may very well be the issue here.
>
> I didn't realize Gmail was branded differently in some countries.
> But I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.  And if it did, then
> I'd expect it to follow through in everything, including the IMAP
> folder names.

They were sued in the UK by a company that had already registered the
trademark "gmail" iirc, which is probably why they are using Google
Mail here.

I think leaving it as GMail is a sensible idea, adding the comment to
try Google Mail at the bottom.

> In which case, [Gmail]/Drafts is probably the more common one
> seen in the wild by users, but a handful in the "other places"
> may see [Google Mail]/Drafts.
>
> --
> Shawn.
>