Re: Time to flush Mr. Hammano?

["Imran M Yousuf" <imyousuf@gmail.com>]

On Jan 21, 2008 5:36 PM, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
> Quim K Holland <qkholland@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > "Marco Costalba" <mcostalba@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  Reading mailing list threads it is becoming common these days to hear
> >> about contributors with patches ready to be sent as soon as 1.5.4 is
> >> out.
> >
> >>  Would be a good idea to open a new branch new_stuff as a target for
> >> this pending stuff?
> >
> > Back when Mr. Torvalds was still leading the development there was not
> > this stupid stability freeze and many useful patches were accepted
> > every day.  For the past few months Mr. Hammano has not been adding
> > much useful code himself, did not join interesting discussions such as
> > Unicode normalization issues, nor gave much useful comments on
> > patches. He has mostly been busy rejecting useful patches and sending
> > not so useful comments.

I can personally give witness to Junio Hamano's discussion and
extremely detailed discussion on patches I sent out and it is more
elaborate than I would have given in reply. If he has not replied to
any of your patch that is because he probably missed it, a resend or a
reminder wont harm; we should all understand the workload involved
with a successful project as git.

> >
> > Can we vote Mr. Hammano out and ask Mr. Torvalds to come back as the
> > project leader?  I do not mean any disrespect to Mr. Hammano, but
> > don't people think he outlived his usefulness as the project leader?
>

At least get the name right next time. I hope Linus does not read it,
because I cant imagine what he would reply :).

> As far as I count as "people", I'd say you are plain nuts.  And it is
> not like I remember any useful contribution of yours, anyhow.
>
> In my opinion, JH is doing a splendid job.  You don't seem to have
> watched it too closely, though.  You are not even able to spell his
> name, and you obviously have no clue about the state of affairs anyway.
> If you think you can do a better job, feel free to do so: since git is
> developed using distributed version control, everybody can make his own
> forks and still continue sharing code and patches.  We have this
> situation with the Linux kernel (where we have Linus kernels, Morton
> kernels, Molnar kernels and so on), all quite amicably.

I tend to agree with David, it is very easy and convenient to
criticise someone despite his brilliant work. if one feels that a
patch will be extremely helpful for one, he/she can easily take and
integrate it with his/her own codebase install it and use it, in fact
thats what I do as I have two installations of git.

>
> A similar branching out is not really visible for git itself (apart from
> the msys-git branch which is slated for eventual reintegration), and
> that's exactly because Junio's work leaves so very little to be desired.
>
> --
> David Kastrup
>
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Imran M Yousuf