From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Imran M Yousuf" Subject: Re: Time to flush Mr. Hammano? Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:47:55 +0600 Message-ID: <7bfdc29a0801210347mfdac6f9h65e7cbc10a6cc71e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070624192215@qkholland.gmail.com> <86wsq3pg0q.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: "David Kastrup" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Jan 21 12:48:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JGv8e-0002ra-W3 for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:48:29 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757792AbYAULr6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:47:58 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756464AbYAULr6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:47:58 -0500 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.185]:61303 "EHLO nf-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754801AbYAULr5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:47:57 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so241774nfb.21 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:47:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zwh61YsH3EPC0w2C5wD2+cKC8RNlrPS2zQcGliRWrIw=; b=RbQ1NI9e6aIIZpYm4KBy/MoTlwPCGTDnfP6bNpTWdX3dfsOHhg3yaU+4kKcWzM73LgEMUMQg3/aRZhogt1iCvtKHsYmE9Fdxld7ZdytmbF3iuVwv95p30i4T76/fdmYjJ6qH8iBVceVHeMCsq3GMokC9hB9tfT4ISbt+yUO1JIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F3iYDhvXdnwk3xAm2x+e5vBPYpYkfc+WocLAGKxeevNlHGNDd0dd7S6laDxk6A+MSzT/Qz0JQ7zlffTxPwTL48J8W4br8MLq98e6zrozQ5j0bZxURG5KemI8/oo8jkwEwPsDlpKjtwol57PnqIYwnm1ywc7X1GvRSGxSQFtVyOw= Received: by 10.78.145.14 with SMTP id s14mr8792393hud.58.1200916075419; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.50.5 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:47:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86wsq3pg0q.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Jan 21, 2008 5:36 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Quim K Holland writes: > > > "Marco Costalba" wrote: > > > >> Reading mailing list threads it is becoming common these days to hear > >> about contributors with patches ready to be sent as soon as 1.5.4 is > >> out. > > > >> Would be a good idea to open a new branch new_stuff as a target for > >> this pending stuff? > > > > Back when Mr. Torvalds was still leading the development there was not > > this stupid stability freeze and many useful patches were accepted > > every day. For the past few months Mr. Hammano has not been adding > > much useful code himself, did not join interesting discussions such as > > Unicode normalization issues, nor gave much useful comments on > > patches. He has mostly been busy rejecting useful patches and sending > > not so useful comments. I can personally give witness to Junio Hamano's discussion and extremely detailed discussion on patches I sent out and it is more elaborate than I would have given in reply. If he has not replied to any of your patch that is because he probably missed it, a resend or a reminder wont harm; we should all understand the workload involved with a successful project as git. > > > > Can we vote Mr. Hammano out and ask Mr. Torvalds to come back as the > > project leader? I do not mean any disrespect to Mr. Hammano, but > > don't people think he outlived his usefulness as the project leader? > At least get the name right next time. I hope Linus does not read it, because I cant imagine what he would reply :). > As far as I count as "people", I'd say you are plain nuts. And it is > not like I remember any useful contribution of yours, anyhow. > > In my opinion, JH is doing a splendid job. You don't seem to have > watched it too closely, though. You are not even able to spell his > name, and you obviously have no clue about the state of affairs anyway. > If you think you can do a better job, feel free to do so: since git is > developed using distributed version control, everybody can make his own > forks and still continue sharing code and patches. We have this > situation with the Linux kernel (where we have Linus kernels, Morton > kernels, Molnar kernels and so on), all quite amicably. I tend to agree with David, it is very easy and convenient to criticise someone despite his brilliant work. if one feels that a patch will be extremely helpful for one, he/she can easily take and integrate it with his/her own codebase install it and use it, in fact thats what I do as I have two installations of git. > > A similar branching out is not really visible for git itself (apart from > the msys-git branch which is slated for eventual reintegration), and > that's exactly because Junio's work leaves so very little to be desired. > > -- > David Kastrup > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- Imran M Yousuf