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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, johannes.schindelin@gmx.de, peff@peff.net,
	ps@pks.im, me@ttaylorr.com, johncai86@gmail.com,
	newren@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] pack-objects: add --full-name-hash option
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 22:31:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7d7b9c30-c95a-4dcd-a5d7-1fca5ddb99e7@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqed5ssots.fsf@gitster.g>

On 9/9/24 1:45 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> This is not meant to be cryptographic at all, but uniformly distributed
>> across the possible hash values. This creates a hash that appears
>> pseudorandom. There is no ability to consider similar file types as
>> being close to each other.
> 
> Another consideration we had when designing the current mechanism,
> which is more important than "compare .c files with each other", is
> to handle the case where a file is moved across directory boundary
> without changing its name.  These "hash collissions" are meant to be
> a part of obtaining _good_ paring of blobs that ought to be similar
> to each other.  In other words, we wanted them to collide so that we
> do not have to be negatively affected by moves.
> 
> I am not saying that we should not update the pack name hash; I am
> just saying that "consider similar file types" as if that is the
> most important aspect of the current hash, is misleading.

Thank you for this extra aspect, which has clarified some of my
thinking and I will use in future versions.

Thanks,
-Stolee


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-10  2:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-09 13:56 [PATCH 0/4] pack-objects: create new name-hash algorithm Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-09 13:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] pack-objects: add --full-name-hash option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-09 17:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-10  2:31     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2024-09-09 13:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] git-repack: update usage to match docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-09 17:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-09 13:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] p5313: add size comparison test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-09 13:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] p5314: add a size test for name-hash collisions Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-09 16:07 ` [PATCH 0/4] pack-objects: create new name-hash algorithm Derrick Stolee
2024-09-09 18:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-10  2:37   ` Derrick Stolee
2024-09-10 14:56     ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-10 21:05       ` Derrick Stolee
2024-09-11  6:32         ` Jeff King
2024-09-10 16:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-10 20:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-10 21:09         ` Derrick Stolee
2024-09-18 20:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-18 20:46   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] pack-objects: add --full-name-hash option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-19 21:56     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-18 20:46   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] repack: test " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-19 22:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-18 20:46   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] pack-objects: add GIT_TEST_FULL_NAME_HASH Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-19 22:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-23  1:39       ` Derrick Stolee
2024-09-18 20:46   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] git-repack: update usage to match docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-18 20:46   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] p5313: add size comparison test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-19 21:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-23  1:50       ` Derrick Stolee
2024-09-23 16:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-18 20:46   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] test-tool: add helper for name-hash values Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-09-24  7:02     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-09-25 13:35       ` Derrick Stolee
2024-09-18 23:30   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] pack-objects: create new name-hash algorithm Derrick Stolee
2024-10-04 21:17   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-10-04 22:30     ` Taylor Blau
2024-10-04 22:35     ` Jeff King
2024-10-08 18:32   ` Derrick Stolee

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