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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Sayers <andrew-git@pileofstuff.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:29:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7v3995cu0s.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACBZZX6_m6b3Abf=NhWvL_g5aHEG9xZEBFfc3K35aSRrUBeWOQ@mail.gmail.com> ("Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason"'s message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2012 22:26:25 +0100")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> Most of our users are either never going to see this warning because
> their OS will skip the whole of steps 2-6, or worse yet their OS
> might upgrade Git between steps 2-5 and they'll be stuck watching the
> warning it for 1-6 years, or however long their upstream vendor takes
> up upgrade.
>
> I think a better strategy would be to just announce that we're going
> to change it, and then just change it without any intermediate
> steps.

You are only arguing that what we do does not matter much to Distro users,
and you already read that I agreed with that. It's really up to the distro
to make sure their release cycle does not harm the users.

But does that mean we won't have to help our own users who do not depend
on distros with a gentler approach?  I don't think so.

Just like we say we would want to see Perl 5.8.3 or newer for unicode
purposes, it would be sufficient if our announce says Git 1.8.x and later
gives an updated default behaviour to help new people by avoiding a harder
to understand error modes when used in the simplest workflow.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-19  0:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-17  5:10 Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17  5:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17 10:05   ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-18 18:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-18 21:26       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-03-19  0:29         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-03-19  7:29           ` Sebastien Douche
2012-03-19 20:11       ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-19 21:43         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-19 22:20           ` demerphq
2012-03-19 22:38             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 10:00               ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-03-19 22:47           ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-19 22:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 21:20               ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-20 23:09                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 23:41                   ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-21  0:25                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 14:12   ` Martin Langhoff
2012-03-20 15:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 18:31       ` Martin Langhoff
2012-03-20 16:43     ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-21 17:54   ` Summary of discussion on "git push" default change Junio C Hamano
2012-03-21 18:05     ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-17 14:00 ` Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Joey Hess
2012-03-19  0:36   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17 18:43 ` fREW Schmidt
2012-03-18  4:02   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-18  5:43     ` Marcus D. Hanwell
2012-03-18 16:52   ` Sebastian Schuberth
2012-03-19  9:07 ` Peter Krefting
2012-03-19  9:35   ` Letting remote repositories override local configuration Jonathan Nieder
2012-03-19 12:21     ` Peter Krefting
2012-03-19 18:57 ` Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Kevin Ballard
2012-03-20  2:27 ` Antony Male
2012-03-20 12:04   ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-20 13:04     ` Antony Male
2012-03-20  7:13 ` Nathan Gray
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:01   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:36 ` Filipe Fernandes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-03-19 18:26 Michael K. Johnson

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