From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: Git weekly news: 2008-49 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:54:58 -0800 Message-ID: <7v3ah2z6jh.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <94a0d4530812041643r784ae8b1x242e3b2f9c9f41@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "Felipe Contreras" , "git list" To: Jakub Narebski X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Dec 05 21:56:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L8hj8-00070q-3l for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:56:42 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753629AbYLEUzK (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:55:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753351AbYLEUzJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:55:09 -0500 Received: from a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:36506 "EHLO sasl.smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751945AbYLEUzI (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:55:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFADD182F8; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [68.225.240.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83960182F6; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:54:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Jakub Narebski's message of "Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:02:33 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: FE89BEA8-C30E-11DD-880B-F83E113D384A-77302942!a-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Jakub Narebski writes: > [1] It would be nice if somebody resurrected GitTraffic, offshot of > now defunct KernelTraffic, or at least helped to write Git articles > for KernelTrap (which currently is in a bit of hiatus). While I 100% agree with you that "Git Traffic" was a terrific attempt, I do not think expecting or asking Felipe to duplicate it is realistic. I searched for Felipe's proposal on the list archive, and its title was "Planet Git". That shows why the focus could be different. "Git Traffic" was great because it attempted to directly address the issue that the traffic on the mailing list was simply too high (and still is) to follow for casual observers. It did so by giving a comprehensive summary of what important topics were discussed recently on the list from the viewpoint of one dedicated person who followed many, perhaps not all, important threads carefully, who very well knew what was going on, and who had a good taste on what is important and what is not. But "Planet Git" is quite different from "Git Traffic". For the latter, somebody needs to do a real work, continuously. But more importantly, I think they would serve different purposes. A "Planet" could be valuable to have with or without "Traffic". I think what was presented as "Official Git blog", however, is also different from what people expect a "Planet" to be. I do not think it is unreasonable to expect or ask Felipe to improve on making his service more "Planet" like. A "Planet", as I understand it, is an aggregator of (selected) people's blogs, and even though I am not currently involved in any Planet nor follow any Planet myself, I can imagine that it could be a valuable resource to have a "Planet Git" that subscribes to and aggregates what influential figures write on git in their blogs. Felipe's page currently is a random collection of links, and other than their titles, there is no indication for readers to judge which link is worth clicking and reading. It does not even mention who wrote each piece, let alone editorial comments (e.g. "This is worth reading") like you added. When you click one of them in order to read it, you leave the "list of links". That is not how navigation (the click and thought flow for the readers) usually works in a "Planet". If this wants to be a "Planet Git", I do not think there is any need for Felipe to ask "who wants accounts?" It would go the other way. Instead, Felipe, as the coordinator of the "Planet", would find people who writes noteworthy things on git on their own blogs, would ask for permission to slurp and aggregate what they wrote, and produce the page by aggregating their writings. That would make a good "Planet Git". Expecting people to apply for an account and write for that page would not fly. As Felipe said himself, many people already have their own blog. Having said all that, I am not sure "Planet" would work for the git community as well as it would for others. I do not know of many core-ish people write on git on their blogs (and I know at least two core-ish people who flatly say "blogging is a waste of time").