From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
Cc: "Pierre Habouzit" <madcoder@debian.org>,
"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "Kristian Høgsberg" <krh@redhat.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFH] convert shortlog to use parse_options
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:59:28 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7v3au1eopr.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47662715.9070200@op5.se> (Andreas Ericsson's message of "Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:36:53 +0100")
Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se> writes:
> Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> ... The
>> "must stick" restriction feels Ok on paper but in practice it looks
>> rather draconian and very user unfriendly.
>
> Usually, optional arguments warrant adding a second parameter. This can
> often even improve usability, as it's never unclear or ambiguous what's
> happening. For the 'git tag -l' case, I'd use something like
> 'git tag -l --match="regex"' or some such,...
That is essentially arguing for POSIXly correct "do not allow optional
option-arguments" (utility syntax guidelines #7). That position might
be politically correct, but I am already discussing beyond that:
usability.
For "git tag -l", the fix was rather simple, as the option would either
have taken a zero pattern (list all) or a single pattern (list matching
this pattern), and the command itself did not take any extra arguments,
so that was what I did in the patch. Compare your POSIXly correct
version:
git tag -l (ok)
git tag -l pattern (not ok)
git tag -l --match=pattern (ok)
with the traditional (and fixed):
git tag -l (ok)
git tag -l pattern (ok)
git tag -l pattern garbage (not ok)
Which one is easier for the user?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-17 8:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-13 5:52 [RFH] convert shortlog to use parse_options Jeff King
2007-12-13 9:06 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 9:10 ` Jeff King
2007-12-13 9:35 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] parseopt: Enforce the use of the sticked form for optional arguments Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 10:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] parseopt: Add a gitcli(5) man page Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 11:04 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-13 13:56 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 7:28 ` [PATCH] (squashme) gitcli documentation fixups Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 8:51 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 8:57 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 7:28 ` [PATCH] builtin-tag: fix fallouts from recent parsopt restriction Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 9:07 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 10:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 10:58 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 11:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 12:33 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 19:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 20:31 ` Jeff King
2007-12-17 20:42 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 21:01 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 23:07 ` Jeff King
2007-12-17 23:14 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 20:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 20:53 ` Jeff King
2007-12-17 21:24 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 21:11 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 11:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 11:56 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 11:59 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 17:40 ` [RFH] convert shortlog to use parse_options Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13 18:03 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 18:07 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 19:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13 18:28 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-12-13 18:47 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-12-13 20:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-14 4:08 ` Jeff King
2007-12-14 5:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-14 8:33 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-14 8:39 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-14 20:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-15 11:03 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 7:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 7:36 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-17 7:59 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2007-12-17 9:38 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-17 16:21 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-12-13 19:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13 20:53 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 9:29 ` Pierre Habouzit
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