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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Andrew Sayers <andrew-git@pileofstuff.org>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:43:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7v62e09sig.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F6792DE.80208@pileofstuff.org> (Andrew Sayers's message of "Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:11:10 +0000")

Andrew Sayers <andrew-git@pileofstuff.org> writes:

> On 18/03/12 18:50, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> 
>> ... but in short, it is not a problem we can solve
>> (nor we should be solving), as long as we have a reasonable migration plan
>> and if the user is locked out of that migration plan---whoever is doing
>> the locking-out is taking responsibility for these users who are out of
>> our reach.
>
> I take the point that distros have their own support infrastructure, so
> perhaps this would be a better example:
>
> Many administrators in corporate environments will install git from
> source, because they don't trust RPM/need some feature in the latest
> version/are just that way inclined.  Having installed it, they tend to
> sit on that version for a few years ...

The same response applies. These administrators are taking responsibility
for their users by making them out of our reach.

> ... a
> slightly better solution:
>
> When a user upgrades to a mid- or post-change version of git, I think
> it's a good idea for them to be warned about the change of behaviour.
> But new users, and old users with new repositories, gain nothing from
> the little history lesson.

You are right for new users, but are wrong for old users who aren't aware
of the switch-over, *and* are harmed by the switch-over.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-19 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-17  5:10 Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17  5:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17 10:05   ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-18 18:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-18 21:26       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-03-19  0:29         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-19  7:29           ` Sebastien Douche
2012-03-19 20:11       ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-19 21:43         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-03-19 22:20           ` demerphq
2012-03-19 22:38             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 10:00               ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-03-19 22:47           ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-19 22:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 21:20               ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-20 23:09                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 23:41                   ` Andrew Sayers
2012-03-21  0:25                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 14:12   ` Martin Langhoff
2012-03-20 15:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-20 18:31       ` Martin Langhoff
2012-03-20 16:43     ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-21 17:54   ` Summary of discussion on "git push" default change Junio C Hamano
2012-03-21 18:05     ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-17 14:00 ` Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Joey Hess
2012-03-19  0:36   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17 18:43 ` fREW Schmidt
2012-03-18  4:02   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-18  5:43     ` Marcus D. Hanwell
2012-03-18 16:52   ` Sebastian Schuberth
2012-03-19  9:07 ` Peter Krefting
2012-03-19  9:35   ` Letting remote repositories override local configuration Jonathan Nieder
2012-03-19 12:21     ` Peter Krefting
2012-03-19 18:57 ` Please discuss: what "git push" should do when you do not say what to push? Kevin Ballard
2012-03-20  2:27 ` Antony Male
2012-03-20 12:04   ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-20 13:04     ` Antony Male
2012-03-20  7:13 ` Nathan Gray
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:00   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:01   ` Ben Tebulin
2012-03-20 12:36 ` Filipe Fernandes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-03-19 18:26 Michael K. Johnson

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