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From: Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bootstrapping into git, commit gripes at me
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:41:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7v8y0cg07c.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0507112010120.17536@g5.osdl.org> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:18:28 -0700 (PDT)")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> writes:

> So at least to me it makes much more sense to say "ok, I'll start
> something new, and call it xyzzy", than "ok, I'll start something new, and
> I'll save the old under 'old'".
>
> The "old" thing might not even be anything you worked on (it might be
> something you just cloned from somebody else), so you giving it a name 
> isn't very logical. In contrast, you're clearly doing something active 
> with the new thing, so naming _that_ makes sense.

What I had mind was ``If you do not care about the current
"master", just say "checkout --force"''.

When I start working on something I often do not know what the
thing I am going to work on ends up to be.  So I would start
from v2.6.12 tag, do random hacking, and when I got into a
reasonable shape, I would say ``Ok, this is worth saving.  Let's
name it "foobar" branch and continue.''  And I would probably
switch to some other subproject when an urgent bugfix comes in,
and I would not want to lose my "master" _then_.  So (the
"branch" one has been revised):

  checkout [--force] <commit-ish>

   In addition to reading the tree and updating the work tree,
   stores "<commit-ish>^0" in .git/refs/heads/master.  However,
   if the current "master" is not something that matches a
   refs/*/*, then the user will be losing the trail between
   "master" before checkout and what is recorded in refs/, so
   the user needs to allow me explicitly to do it.

  branch <branch-name>

   Save the current "master" to branch-name.  If the user makes
   a mistake and tries to store the "master" head into a wrong
   branch, that would lose development trail of the branch being
   overwritten, so if the named branch exists and "master" is
   not a descendent of it, the user needs to explicitly tell me
   that it is OK to do so.

I do not quite follow your objections.  I do not think I am
forcing anybody to name an old thing.  Do you mean that "I've
been working on A and now I want to switch to B; so I'll save
the current state in A and switch to B" is too redundant, and I
should just let the user say "I've been working on something I
do not care to remember, now I want to switch to B, so just take
me to B and you should remember where I was and save it to A
automatically"?  That sort of makes sense to me.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-12  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-08 23:07 Bootstrapping into git, commit gripes at me Marc Singer
     [not found] ` <7v4qb46dff.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>
2005-07-09  1:11   ` Marc Singer
2005-07-09 21:04     ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-10 15:06       ` Petr Baudis
     [not found]   ` <20050709003636.GA26526@buici.com>
     [not found]     ` <7v1x684wgr.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>
2005-07-09  1:16       ` Marc Singer
2005-07-09  1:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-09  1:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-11 22:20   ` Marc Singer
2005-07-11 23:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-11 23:15       ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-12  0:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  1:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  2:10           ` Marc Singer
2005-07-12  3:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  3:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  4:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  4:43                   ` Marc Singer
2005-07-12  4:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  5:12                       ` Marc Singer
2005-07-12  7:48                   ` Petr Baudis
2005-07-12  9:07                     ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-12 16:29                       ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-24  8:57                       ` Petr Baudis
2005-07-24 16:24                         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-12 16:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-12  1:26                       ` Petr Baudis
2005-07-12  2:21           ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-12  3:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  3:41               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2005-07-12  3:52                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  3:53                 ` Marc Singer
2005-07-12 17:04             ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-07-11 23:45     ` Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-09  0:40 Marc Singer

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