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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@Ethgen.de>,
	553296@bugs.debian.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bug#553296: gitignore broken completely
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:41:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vaaz8lleg.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091030173838.GB18583@coredump.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Fri\, 30 Oct 2009 13\:38\:38 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> I am not sure simply reverting is the best choice; the patch does do
> something useful. And while it strictly breaks backwards compatibility
> on the output without "-i", the old behavior was considered a bug. But
> the "-i" behavior is useless now, so we need to figure out how to
> proceed. We can:
>
>   1. Revert and accept that the behavior is historical. Callers need to
>      work around it by dropping --exclude* when invoking ls-files.
>
>   2. Declare "-i" useless, deprecate and/or remove. Obviously this is
>      also breaking existing behavior, but again, I don't think that
>      using "-i" actually accomplishes anything.
>
>   3. Revert for now, and then reinstate the patch during a major version
>      bump when we are declaring some compatibility breakages.
>
>   4. Re-work "-i" to show tracked but ignored files, but still show all
>      files when "-i" is not given at all.
>
> I think (4) preserves the benefit of the patch in question, but still
> allows your usage ("git ls-files -i --exclude-standard"). I do question
> whether that usage is worth supporting. Certainly I wouldn't implement
> it if I were writing git-ls-files from scratch today, but we do in
> general try to maintain backwards compatibility, especially for plumbing
> like ls-files.
>
> Junio, what do you want to do?

I've never understood the use of "ls-files -i" without -o, so in that
sense, I have done 2. myself already long time ago.

In other words, I do not really care that much, and the choice would be
between "0. do not do anything---the patch in question was a bugfix for
longstanding insanity" and your "4. -i without -o didn't make much sense
but now it does and here is the new meaning".

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-30 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20091029233458.GA32764@ikki.ethgen.de>
     [not found] ` <20091030162857.26604.qmail@67b7e3b41a17c8.315fe32.mid.smarden.org>
     [not found]   ` <20091030165903.GA10671@ikki.ethgen.de>
2009-10-30 17:38     ` Bug#553296: gitignore broken completely Jeff King
2009-10-30 18:23       ` Klaus Ethgen
2009-10-30 18:41         ` Jeff King
2009-10-30 19:05           ` Jeff King
2009-10-30 19:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-30 19:52               ` Jeff King
2009-10-30 20:05               ` Klaus Ethgen
2009-10-30 20:01             ` Klaus Ethgen
2009-10-30 20:05               ` Jeff King
2009-10-30 20:08                 ` Klaus Ethgen
2009-10-30 19:41       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2009-10-30 19:43         ` Jeff King
2009-10-30 21:41           ` Junio C Hamano

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