From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/10] remote-hg: update bookmarks when pulling Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:25:44 -0700 Message-ID: <7vbo8dfbbr.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <1368486720-2716-1-git-send-email-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <1368486720-2716-9-git-send-email-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <51929dfa8122e_13a8f89e182115@nysa.mail> <7vzjvxfck2.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King To: Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed May 15 00:25:53 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UcNfM-00006c-6B for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 00:25:52 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758429Ab3ENWZr (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 May 2013 18:25:47 -0400 Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.35]:37300 "EHLO smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758091Ab3ENWZq (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 May 2013 18:25:46 -0400 Received: from smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B101E6A4; Tue, 14 May 2013 22:25:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=6LJerfEas271pRTCUHecHCurU1E=; b=YZTJsZ SxNNu2PDmGVk9SnpWhpizpm+2MDnfLsExcS3H5yZDrARG59EKT9UGcE3NCNxXlFW BvO2Yel1xAqFrGJ/hPHK3FuLX3tPt1aKJlqLlVgJVSk0Y5wE43SEBauUwMtgJ6hk dpjysRDfHVy9oror3aURilOESfjmosEXKt7nY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=UknmqrFQFOvn5WyCRA4sUWCG6TI9BS+h PkyIkWqF+WjNdPqwAWNZkR+m3Hxd7qaBdlpqBo+X8usjgbtTwo7fpk6oOsaQHTcj +RIwa6HsP+UtbCo/u9b8dz+cRhfMo3amUQlrwwCdc8HsgyK3g0HbAREhtdYr/mQ7 rAcGo1h1Leg= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C11A1E6A3; Tue, 14 May 2013 22:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [50.152.208.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E879B1E6A2; Tue, 14 May 2013 22:25:45 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Felipe Contreras's message of "Tue, 14 May 2013 17:14:48 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 38B78CA2-BCE5-11E2-891F-E56BAAC0D69C-77302942!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Felipe Contreras writes: > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> Felipe Contreras writes: >> >>> Without this fix, the user would never ever see new bookmarks, only the ones >>> that (s)he initially cloned. >> >> Now, think again and realize how long it took you (the original >> author) to discover issues and come up with these fixes and >> explanation since the series was merged before -rc0. > > This issue has *always* been there, it's not a regression. Then why are you rushing it? -rc is a "regression-fix-only" period. > Define "ready". It's probably more "ready" than any other bridge > tool out there. Anything that needs "oh, we need to push these ten patches to avoid regressions at the last minute" is not mature enough to be relied upon by end users for everyday use. That is what I meant. But now you are saying these are not regression fixes, in which case they have to wait because the users have known about the limitations that existed for a long time and learned to live with them. That is a sign of mature (not "not ready") software. You cannot be both. Which is it?